Top 100 jobs in Singapore (2007)

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Top 100 jobs in Singapore (2007)

August 5th, 2007

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(5 July 2008 – See the 2008 edition of this list.)

(8 August – Updated with ranking of 3rd-quartile gross wages.)

This is the 2007 edition of my annual list of 100 best-paying jobs in Singapore. It is compiled based on data from MOM Occupational Wages Survey, which is published as part of the Report on Wages in Singapore 2006.

The 2006 edition of this post.

The survey covered more than 180,000 individuals, and their wage information is collected from CPF.

But note that the wage data do not include performance bonuses, profit sharing and stock options.

Without further ado, here’s the list of the top 100 jobs based on the 75th-percentile gross basic monthly income (I don’t use the mean or median income as I want my list to better reflect the higher earners in the top jobs):

  1. Managing director – $20,000
  2. Commodities futures broker – $17,084
  3. Financial futures dealer and broker – $16,667
  4. General Manager – $15,417
  5. Foreign exchange dealer and broker – $13,024
  6. Company director – $12,680
  7. Securities dealer and broker – $12,500
  8. Specialised surgeon – $12,000
  9. Risk management manager – $10,800
  10. Creative director (Advertising) – $10,800
  11. Legal service manager – $9,592
  12. Treasury manager – $9,050
  13. Operations manager (Finance) – $9,000
  14. Legal officer – $8,975
  15. Research and development manager – $7,696
  16. Engineering manager – $7,543
  17. Budgeting and financial accounting manager – $7,525
  18. Training manager – $7,502
  19. Business development manager – $7,500
  20. Computer and information systems manager – $7,473
  21. Technical manager – $7,400
  22. Corporate planning manager – $7,350
  23. Advocate and solicitor – $7,300
  24. Quality assurance manager – $7,210
  25. Personnel / Human resource manager – $7,205
  26. Computer operations and network manager – $7,200
  27. Marketing manager – $7,004
  28. Business management consultant – $6,933
  29. Advertising and public relations manager – $6,876
  30. Procurement manager – $6,833
  31. Editor (Newspapers and periodicals) – $6,798
  32. Editor (Radio, television and video) – $6,776
  33. Biologist – $6,710
  34. Chemical engineer (Petroleum) – $6,708
  35. Credit analyst – $6,667
  36. Customer service manager – $6,662
  37. Logistics manager – $6,558
  38. Manufacturing plant and production manager – $6,513
  39. Advertising copywriter – $6,500
  40. Marine superintendent engineer – $6,480
  41. Building architect – $6,400
  42. Lawyer (except advocate and solicitor) – $6,300
  43. Sales manager – $6,248
  44. Premises maintenance manager – $6,220
  45. Business analyst – $6,192
  46. Flight operations officer – $6,003
  47. Operations manager – $6,000
  48. Transport operations manager – $6,000
  49. Administration manager – $5,967
  50. Hydrographic surveyor – $5,819
  51. Shipping manager – $5,750
  52. Industrial health, safety and environment engineer – $5,700
  53. Property / Estate manager – $5,300
  54. Building and construction project manager – $5,270
  55. Financial analyst – $5,210
  56. Clearing and forwarding agent – $5,200
  57. Telecommunications engineer – $5,185
  58. Instrumentation engineer – $5,136
  59. Treasury officer – $5,100
  60. Aeronautical engineer – $5,063
  61. Information technology auditor – $5,047
  62. Database administrator – $4,985
  63. Warehousing manager – $4,900
  64. Electronics engineer – $4,759
  65. Medical pathologist – $4,738
  66. Information technology security specialist – $4,635
  67. Chemist – $4,605
  68. Systems designer and analyst – $4,600
  69. Network systems and data communication analyst – $4,415
  70. Materials engineer – $4,414
  71. Accountant – $4,380
  72. Production engineer – $4,370
  73. Biomedical engineer – $4,361
  74. Structural engineer – $4,350
  75. Civil engineer – $4,350
  76. Journalist – $4,350
  77. General physician – $4,344
  78. Research officer – $4,309
  79. Mechanical engineer – $4,279
  80. Executive secretary – $4,254
  81. Assistant civil and structural engineer – $4,244
  82. Chemical engineer – $4,235
  83. Translator – $4,205
  84. Software engineer – $4,200
  85. Application programmer – $4,175
  86. Power generation and distribution engineer – $4,170
  87. QC engineer – $4,150
  88. Chemical engineer (Petrochemicals) – $4,146
  89. Automotive engineer – $4,139
  90. Electrical engineer – $4,126
  91. Semi-conductor engineer – $4,100
  92. Statistical officer – $4,063
  93. Market research analyst – $4,057
  94. Computer engineer – $4,040
  95. CAD CAM engineer – $4,038
  96. Manufacturing engineer – $4,028
  97. Naval architect – $4,000
  98. Librarian – $4,000
  99. Specialised nurse – $4,000
  100. Medical diagnostic radiographer – $3,993

This is the ranking table based on 75th-percentile gross monthly income (as opposed to basic monthly income):

  1. Financial futures dealer and broker – $23,517
  2. Managing director – $20,775
  3. Specialised surgeon – $19,100
  4. Commodities futures broker – $17,084
  5. General Manager – $17,000
  6. Company director – $13,490
  7. Foreign exchange dealer and broker – $13,334
  8. Securities dealer and broker – $13,000
  9. Creative director (Advertising) – $10,800
  10. Risk management manager – $10,800
  11. Hydrographic surveyor – $10,522
  12. Legal service manager – $10,000
  13. Treasury manager – $9,724
  14. Operations manager (Finance) – $9,450
  15. Legal officer – $9,394
  16. Training manager – $8,240
  17. Business development manager – $8,000
  18. Research and development manager – $7,890
  19. Budgeting and financial accounting manager – $7,850
  20. Engineering manager – $7,762
  21. Technical manager – $7,706
  22. Corporate planning manager – $7,700
  23. Quality assurance manager – $7,700
  24. Computer and information systems manager – $7,626
  25. Advocate and solicitor – $7,590
  26. Computer operations and network manager – $7,577
  27. Personnel / Human resource manager – $7,534
  28. Logistics manager – $7,343
  29. Marketing manager – $7,315
  30. Customer service manager – $7,198
  31. Procurement manager – $7,190
  32. Business management consultant – $7,152
  33. Chemical engineer (Petroleum) – $7,095
  34. Sales manager – $7,050
  35. Advertising and public relations manager – $6,900
  36. Manufacturing plant and production manager – $6,894
  37. Aeronautical engineer – $6,876
  38. Editor (Newspapers and periodicals) – $6,798
  39. Editor (Radio, television and video) – $6,776
  40. Biologist – $6,752
  41. Credit analyst – $6,667
  42. Premises maintenance manager – $6,520
  43. Advertising copywriter – $6,500
  44. Building architect – $6,500
  45. Marine superintendent engineer – $6,480
  46. Lawyer (except advocate and solicitor) – $6,400
  47. Industrial health, safety and environment engineer – $6,362
  48. Operations manager – $6,340
  49. Business analyst – $6,206
  50. Transport operations manager – $6,174
  51. Shipping manager – $6,100
  52. Administration manager – $6,070
  53. Flight operations officer – $6,038
  54. Aeronautical engineering technician – $5,985
  55. Treasury officer – $5,904
  56. Marine engineer – $5,881
  57. Personal banker – $5,661
  58. Instrumentation engineer – $5,646
  59. Building and construction project manager – $5,600
  60. General physician – $5,579
  61. Property / Estate manager – $5,456
  62. Database administrator – $5,374
  63. Information technology auditor – $5,347
  64. Telecommunications engineer – $5,336
  65. Financial analyst – $5,333
  66. Clearing and forwarding agent – $5,200
  67. Warehousing manager – $5,000
  68. Chemist – $4,986
  69. Naval architect – $4,900
  70. Chemical engineer (Petrochemicals) – $4,896
  71. Chemical engineering technician – $4,884
  72. Materials engineer – $4,853
  73. Electronics engineer – $4,831
  74. Medical pathologist – $4,800
  75. Systems designer and analyst – $4,780
  76. Information technology security specialist – $4,735
  77. Chemical engineer – $4,726
  78. Civil engineer – $4,725
  79. Mechanical engineer – $4,682
  80. Production engineer – $4,680
  81. Real estate agent – $4,647
  82. Power generation and distribution engineer – $4,622
  83. Journalist – $4,606
  84. Structural engineer – $4,600
  85. After sales service adviser – $4,570
  86. Network systems and data communication analyst – $4,532
  87. Sales representative (Technical) – $4,520
  88. Biomedical engineer – $4,500
  89. Accountant – $4,499
  90. Semi-conductor engineer – $4,496
  91. Application programmer – $4,430
  92. Research officer – $4,400
  93. QC engineer – $4,396
  94. Executive secretary – $4,385
  95. Electrical engineer – $4,368
  96. Automotive engineer – $4,360
  97. Computer engineer – $4,357
  98. Market research analyst – $4,340
  99. Software engineer – $4,314
  100. Specialised nurse – $4,304

The differences between gross and basic wages can be noted from the following, which I quote from the report:

The spread between gross and basic wages was more pronounced among occupations which require payments for overtime, commissions and allowances (e.g. shift, food, housing and transport), such as sales & service workers and blue-collar workers where gross wages were about 15% to 40% higher than basic wages. On the other hand, there was little difference between the basic and gross wages among managers and professionals. Their variable pay usually takes the form of performance bonuses, profit sharing and stock options which are not captured in this survey.

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537 Responses to “Top 100 jobs in Singapore (2007)”


  1. DK Says:

    Strange… How come MP is not in the list? I thought they have the best pay in Singapore. :P


  2. KL Says:

    Cos their pay has rocketed way off the charts.


  3. admin Says:

    MPs are not covered by the MOM survey. It’s not found in the list of occupations in the report (page 271).
    btw, the MP is actually a part-time appointment. Almost all MPs hold full time jobs. Hence an MP’s total income should be much higher than $18,025/mth.


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  5. HH Says:

    Hmm…what about teachers ? hehe the most important people in the world….


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  7. admin Says:

    HH, unfortunately, it seems teachers are not covered by the MOM survey. Neither are civil servants and other public sector jobs.
    The occupations closest to “school teachers” that are covered by the survey are “language school teacher” (3rd-quartile pay: $1,900) and “pre-primary education teacher” ($1,475).


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  9. admin Says:

    Librarians barely make it to Top 1... – a blog post by a librarian.


  10. Han Says:

    That’s funny. I am in the aviation industry working as an aerospace engineer and my pay is no where near $5000 (as stated in the table), in fact, MOST of all the engineers I know do not earn a basic that is higher than $4200. (And I have worked in 3 different aviation companies in Singapore. hhhmmm I really wonder where the figures come from)


  11. Lee Says:

    Dont believe the survey!
    Depends to the company / employer wanna pay how much for us!!!
    No standard!
    Wanna rich? Have your own business! or become MP!
    :-)


  12. admin Says:

    Han, according to the MOM data, 790 aeronautical engineers are represented in the survey. The MOM report also mentions that the wage data come from CPF, so I think there’s much accuracy – at least it’s better than surveys that ask people to fill up forms.

    btw, the mean (=average) basic pay of aeronautical engineers is $4,313. At the 25th-percentile, it’s $3,090. Median is $4,031, while the 75th-percentile aeronautical engineer makes $5,063 (which is the value I used in the ranking).

    Since the mean is higher than the median, we can infer that the pay distribution is skewed toward the higher income earners.


  13. Mail Says:

    What about civil servants ? Pay between private sector and public can be wide.


  14. admin Says:

    Mail, unfortunately the MOM survey covers private sector jobs only. But I believe many people perceive that public sector jobs generally pay less than the private sector, except for senior positions/appointments (of course).


  15. bree Says:

    I was thinking of choosing law as my career path. is it recommended if i want big bucks?


  16. admin Says:

    er, if you’re as good as K Shanmugam or Davinder Singh, why not? :)


  17. Abdurrahman Says:

    Hi, I can’t see the Lecturers, tutors and Academic line jobs like Associate prof, prof who works in universities? Can you please give me a rougly idea about their salaries please


  18. Hareni Says:

    i refer to Abuurrahman.Like he has stated, Lecturers, tutors and Academic line jobs have not been stated. A rough idea of the salary of Junior College Lecturer would be appreciated or a lecturer of any sector for the matter of fact. I do belive they earn alot, considering their education level and status. so please do include the above mentioned. thanks


  19. drakuli Says:

    so you’re quoting the higher quartile. btw, does the figure include CPF contribution?

    meh, in any case my salary is waaaaaayyyyy below it.


  20. admin Says:

    Abuurrahman and Hareni, I do not have the figures.
    From what I can tell, polytechnic lecturers get only decent salaries, somewhere between the medians of managers and professionals.
    That said, tutors in universities make even lower. But assistant professors get a starting pay of somewhere close to $10k/mth. Associate professors and full professors obviously make more, maybe with $20k to $25k as the limit.
    Anyone reading this please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.


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  22. SP11 Says:

    96% of all statistics are made up…
    Think about that


  23. Person Says:

    Dear Hareni, most Junior College lecturers are under the strength of MOE, hence the posting (Primary, Secondary or JC) has no bearing on the pay. The pay is pegged at your educational qualifications and whether you are a post-holder. You can refer to MOE for the starting pay. Please do not assume that they earn alot.


  24. jgm Says:

    legal service manager, legal officer, advocate and solicitor and lawyer..what are the differences of these jobs in singapore?


  25. admin Says:

    I’m not a lawyer, but from this link :
    “Solicitors are lawyers who give legal advice to clients and prepare legal documents and cases. Solicitors often specialise in different areas: there are, for example, family law solicitors and company law solicitors.”
    … which I interpret to mean that solicitors are lawyers with specialized skills. More senior maybe.
    I suppose legal service managers and legal officers also play specialized roles.
    I’m really not too sure… can any lawyer reading give some free advice? :)


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  27. asiru Says:

    do please update me wt latest jOBS. THANKS


  28. sniperboxer Says:

    Are the figures shown including 13th month?


  29. admin Says:

    sniperboxer, no the figures do not take into account the 13th month pay.


  30. sniperboxer Says:

    ok, thxs


  31. chenaj Says:

    some demographic details like (1) age and (2) years of experience will really make this list a very good gauge for those looking for a new career change since the job market is still very bright !!

    CIAO !!


  32. Lex Says:

    jgm re your question on the difference between legal service manager, legal officer, advocate and solicitor and lawyer:
    legal service manager, legal officer would both refer to inhouse lawyers who work as employees of companies. They usually have titles such as the above or Legal advisor, Corporate counsel etc.
    advocate and solicitor would refer to lawyers in private practice who coud be employed by a law firm or be self employed.
    Lawyer is extremely vague and could refer to any of the above.


  33. hmm Says:

    I seriously don’t think financial futures dealers are paid that much. If you’re talking about account executives and remisiers, maybe.


  34. Neo Says:

    Hey,

    Iam a senior software engineer having a techno functional profile;
    I have been offered for 5100sg$.
    Is it appropriate salary for this kind of role and also is it enough for me and my wife and kid to survive in sigapore


  35. admin Says:

    Neo, in my opinion it’s more than enough to lead a rather comfortable heartlander lifestyle here.


  36. Lee Says:

    How come there was no mention of say, Security Manager, or Regional or Head of Security or Loss Prevention? Some are earning S$6k, with degree and ex-senior officers of course.


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  38. Jazz Says:

    who will be richer in the future? an entrepreneur or an employee who works in a company?


  39. hmm Says:

    hi jazz,
    you’re asking a million-dollar question. who can tell what will happen in the future?


  40. hmm Says:

    hi Top 100 Jobs in Singapore | Anak Melayu Boleh Blog,

    the income of entrepreneurs vary. we’re talking about salaried workers here. entrepreneurs do not fall in that category.


  41. $0|3T1 Says:

    How much do dentists and medical doctors make in Singapore in a month? Also what is considered to be wealthy (not super millionaire) but extremely well off never thinking of money, monthly salary in Singapore?


  42. BIONIC Says:

    so much was said of an airline company; the “u know who” company earning so SO much. how come
    commercial PILOTS aint in the best paid list?
    JOB scope: report on time, start the plaNE, auto pilot mode and relax for the next hours/days on foreign land. No politics, no backlog, and work perhaps just less than 15 days a month? Hmm…. doubting this “credible list”


  43. admin Says:

    To $0|3T1, the average GP makes around $10k+. See also http://www.salary.sg/2007/doctors-pay/
    As for your 2nd question, I personally consider “high net worth individuals” to be wealthy. See http://www.salary.sg/2007/typical-m...

    To BIONIC, I do not know why pilots are not in the data, but check out http://www.salary.sg/2007/sq-pilots... and http://www.salary.sg/2007/pilots-pay/


  44. ronaldo Says:

    $ 4, 000 a month for client service manager at 29 years old is pretty low rite? or good pay? position is in media agency.. thanks!


  45. ronaldo Says:

    i mean $4, 000 as only BASIC and there is no allowances except out of pocket expenses like hp claims etc..


  46. Roger Says:

    Salary differs very much for the same title depending on qulaiifcatond and experiences
    1 (Diploma or Degres )
    2 3 years of 15 years experiences
    3. Skills, Knowledge, Personality etc


  47. ronaldo Says:

    so?


  48. cuteboy Says:

    i refer to no. 53. on basic monthly income list. can i be one, say, if i go NUS to study environmental engineering? i heard frm others tt the course ‘has dull prospects’, any opinions?thx.


  49. ronaldo Says:

    $ 4, 000 a month for client service manager at 29 years old is pretty low rite? or good pay? position is in media agency.. thanks! anyone pls help reply..?


  50. David Seah Says:

    How many people in Singapore at age 29 making 4K a mth again should be the big question?

    I am pretty sure many citizens out there don’t. So be real grateful that some company is willing to pay that amount when they can pay 2 non-grads ( lower than 4K ) to do this same job.


  51. ronaldo Says:

    i have a master degree and an hons degree first class..david seah..


  52. David Seah Says:

    My point is….there are many other Masters holder and 1st class hons in Singapore as well not only yourself, Ronaldo.

    But how many of they get a reasonable good job with 4K a mth fresh after Uni. Not many dude. Even my younger bro with a PHD also facing over-qualified situation in most interviews. Employers can easily employ a ( foreign talent at a much cheaper salary anytime ).

    A high salary package comes with great responsibility too, bearing in mind. So if u are looking for more than 4K range….follow the profession u deem fit from the list above then. Best of luck.


  53. Momo Says:

    Yes, usually higher pay package does come with greater responsibilities eg. partners of accounting firms and lawyers who can get sued their pants off if they make the slightest mistake and docs who face remorse of a lifetime if they accidentally kill their patients during operations.

    There is no such thing as easy money man! Unless you are a genius trader – like this Soros guy.


  54. Sea Says:

    Hello,

    I realise that the data for General Physician from the 2006 and 2007 version differs by a lot. In 2006, it was more than 14K. In 2007, the basic is only 4K plus and the gross is about 6K. I don’t think the salary will fluctuate so much within a year right? So which is the correct figure?

    Also, is this General Physician first line non-specialist resident physicians in hospital or those General Practicetioners running their own private clinics? Or maybe General Physician refer to non-surgical specialist, like internal medicine?


  55. admin Says:

    Sea, sharp observation.
    Unfortunately, I do not know the answer. I’ve double checked this year’s data and they are all correct.
    The MOM uses the SSOC 2005 job classification, which splits the Medical Doctor profession into 9 types: general physician, general surgeon, specialised surgeon, anaesthetist, psychiatrist, obstetrician & gynaecologist, paediatrician, “other specialised physicians”, and “other medical doctors”.
    So I suppose “General Physician” refers to the common GPs we know.
    As for the sudden drop in income, I can only hazard a guess: the survey previously used business income (clinics are run as businesses), but changed to use declared income (GPs draw a fixed pay from their own businesses).
    Some people estimate GPs make around $10k/mth on average (yet another estimate :) ).


  56. Sea Says:

    Business income means nett profit after or before deducting rental and clinic staff’s pay?

    Another question, since only specialised surgeons and general physicians are on the chart, does it mean the other 7 types of doctors are drawing less salary than the profession ranked 100? This is quite unlikely because I do not think the differences in the pay of the different types of doctors are so much and it is quite unlikely that other specialist doctors like paediatrician and gynaecologist earn less than 5K right?


  57. admin Says:

    Sea, I believe the survey uses only a subset of the SSOC jobs, which should explain why paediatricians and others do not feature in the top 100. But it is also possible that certain professions are subsumed into others, e.g. gynaecologist subsumed under specialised surgeon.


  58. admin Says:

    Sea, GPs make an average of $10,524/mth according to a survey by Singapore Medical Association. See my post here:
    http://www.salary.sg/2007/income-of...


  59. Silent Says:

    admin i wonder whats the average pay of a pyschologist and the highest it can go


  60. ronaldo Says:

    how much does a Media Director get paid? average anyone??

    THANKS


  61. underpaid Says:

    hi admin,
    i was schoked to see the pay details…is this real? i feel like i am underpaid.. i am an embedded systems engineer with 3 years of experience + masters degree. but i am paid only 3500!! please advice how much i would be worth? many thanks for your reply.


  62. ronaldo Says:

    Media Director paid about S$6k ?


  63. neuro Says:

    hi,

    How much does a specialised neurosurgeon (15 yrs + experience) could get in singapore? pls comment


  64. neuro Says:

    what does 75th percentile income mean??


  65. admin Says:

    neuro, if you’re at the 75th percentile, it means you beat 75% of the surveyed population. As for a specialised neurosurgeon, my guess is he/she earns about $500k in a government hospital (i.e. “restructured” hospital), or a couple millions in private practice.


  66. me Says:

    Survey only 180,000 people of a working population of perhaps 2 mil?
    I wouldn’t bet on its accuracy :-)


  67. ms Says:

    hi admin,

    i am a masters degree holder with 3 years of experience in embedded systems field. please advice how much i would be worth? many thanks for your reply.


  68. admin Says:

    ms, unfortunately I couldn’t find the “embedded systems (engineer)” title in the list of occupations. Nonetheless, if your job is close to an electrical engineer or an electronics engineer, the following info may help (from MOM’s Report on Wages 2006):
    Electrical engineer – median $3,200; 3rd quartile $4,126
    Electronics enginner – median $3,820; 3rd quartile $4,759


  69. Hira Says:

    How much does a 1st class honours graduate(NUS) in pharmacy get to earn in singapore. Anyone knows it?


  70. ronaldo Says:

    Hi David Seah & Admin,

    I just joined as Media Director and i am 28 years old. My experience is in media, advertising & marketing. I was actually headhunted for this position.

    My pay is S$9,500 BASIC ,excluding entertainment, transport, handphone etc other allowances that is claimable.

    My two other pals are in Advertising agencies as Account Directors and they are paid about S$8-9 k BASIC with the same claimable perks. They are only about 27 years old.

    Admin, are these pay fair market value to us??

    Thanks!

    Cheers!
    Ron


  71. admin Says:

    Ron, more than fair. :)


  72. Dentist Says:

    I’m qualified as a dentist for 2 years in Hong Kong, now I’m thinking of relocating to Singapore. However, I wonder how much a dentist earns in Singapore, seems that no one can provide the exact figure?


  73. admin Says:

    Dentist, I can’t provide exact figures. If you’re a dental surgeon in private practice, the figure shouldn’t be too far off from that of a specialised surgeon (in my opinion).


  74. piggy Says:

    Hi all, i am being offered a post of application engineer in the industrial automation field for $1900. i m a diploma holder with no experience in the post i’m being offered.Is this consider reasonable? with many thanks!!


  75. admin Says:

    piggy, yes I think what you’re getting is reasonable. All the best!


  76. gosh Says:

    I think a distinction should be made between lawyers working in local firms and lawyers working in foreign law firms. Lawyers in foreign law firms earn a lot more, about 20,000 to 30,000 per month base (not including bonuses)


  77. gokul Says:

    i am 29 yrs old working in IT and getting 6K p/m (gross divded by 12). Is that reasonable?


  78. muni Says:

    i want job>


  79. John Says:

    why did the website not specify the number of years of experience in each position, that is required to obtain that amount of pay? ALso, is there a difference between foriegn worker pay and singaporean?
    I have work for 2.5 years as mechanical engineer (i am singaporean)and i get only $2900.


  80. piggy Says:

    John. Yes i believe there is a diff between local n foriegn just tht they try not to disclosed. Is the 2.9 ur basic or the total package?


  81. Leo Says:

    Hi

    I have a master degree and about 5 years of experience, i want to work in Singapore as a Librarian, how much salary should i expect? is $5000 a month considered high salary?

    Thanks


  82. ChinaWall Says:

    Hi Ronaldo,

    From your age and experiences,you are getting about what you should be getting,especially headhunted.
    I have joined a Media firm based in States as a Media regional manager last yr and i am currently 31 years old. My experience is in media and design. Like you i am actually headhunted for this position.

    My pay is S$13,500 basic @ that time ,excluding perks like entertainments, transportation, cellphone and medical etc

    Best of luck!!
    ChinaWall


  83. ashley Says:

    does anyone know what is the pay (roughly) of a junior college teacher for someone who has 10-year experience in teaching A-levels?Thanks


  84. Nirms Says:

    Admin,
    Would need a favor from you.
    1] What would be basic package offered to a Senior Software Engineer(Working in one of top most reputed US Based Invest Bank having around 3.5 to 4 years of experience) by a market leaders like CreditSuisse or Barclays or any other?

    2] What other perks they offer?
    3] What is leaving expense in Singapore?

    Thanks,
    Nirms


  85. admin Says:

    To all, I’m no oracle, but I can make educated guesses.
    Leo, I hope you’re not asking the question tongue in cheek. I think for your qualifications, you can get 4-5k.
    ashley, about 5-7k? Have you tried asking your JC teachers?
    Nirms, about US$80-100k? But given the downturn, I believe they are looking at downsizing. And do you mean “living expenses” in Singapore? It can be very low if you lead a modest lifestyle- about $2k/mth is more than enough for most.


  86. deen Says:

    hi to all..am a master degree holder in electrical engineer. I was worked in production firm about a year after my bachelor degree. Now am working as a lecturer..looking to relocate to singapore and searching for a job in semiconductor industry as a entry level. what salary would i expect.please suggest me anyone. Anyone..?


  87. orbit Says:

    What was your previous positon? Pay various for process, line, equipment, r&d, product, quality, sales engineers. You could be looking at anything from 3k to 4k basic* depending on company and the whether it is a wafer fab or assembly facility.

    Where you are from sometimes makes a difference as well.


  88. L Says:

    Wats the average salary of a freshly graduated psychologist with degree and 3years of experience?


  89. arty Says:

    hi admin, would you like to do up a chart showing the top 50 most lucrative degree courses in local unis… with the hunting season for uni places currently underway, i believe such a chart would be of much help to prospective undergraduates….

    much appreciated


  90. admin Says:

    arty, nice request :) but unfortunately I do not have such data. What I do know is that the financial and infocomm industries have the highest average/median salaries, with the former leading by a significant margin.


  91. L Says:

    Hi admin, how bout psychologists?


  92. admin Says:

    L, I’m afraid I do not have the info on psychologists. Apparently, the MOM survey did not cover them.


  93. Zulu Says:

    Hi

    Anyone can advise on the pay for a recruitment consultant in an established executive search firm?


  94. ronaldo Says:

    ChinaWall,

    for your age your pay is high..

    i have friends in advertising who earns $9-12K and they are in their 27s to 29s years of age.. i guess this is the benchmark for most ppl?

    Admin?


  95. L Says:

    thanks admin. Currently, i’m not living in singapore. But i’d like to know whether if i were a psychologist, would i be able to find a job in singapore? How is the demand for psychologists there? Just wondering, but if you know, i’d really appreciate it. Thanks again admin..


  96. E Says:

    How come accountants are not among the well paid.


  97. winston Says:

    2K?


  98. officebug Says:

    hi,
    i am 31 and working in a foreign bank as a derivatives trader with basic pay $12,800/mth, i just received my bonus this year is bad, only $250k despite good pnl in desk. anyone knows how much bonus is paid in other banks this year? tks


  99. Kelly Says:

    Hi,
    Admin, can you inform me about the appox basic monthly pay for a Background Screening consultant in Singapore with 4 years of experience in the same field? Please reply.


  100. Z Says:

    Hi,
    I am quite confused over the salary for a Sales Manager. It’s pretty high for a basic pay at $6248. Or this may be the norm and I may be paid really low.

    As a fresh bachelor grad, I am offered a job as an Asst Sales Manager in a SME with a basic salary of $2000 and travel allowances of $200.

    Please advice if the salary is fair or totally not acceptable.


  101. qoh Says:

    Thank you, admin, for answering all of the questions posted by many people. It is 2008 now and I believe inflation, especially in housing is very high now. I don’t know how high is the increase of the salary compared to 2007 or 2006. I just graduate and have no experience, looking for an account executive /media executive position in an advertising agency. May I know how much I should ask for? or possibly a range?


  102. qoh Says:

    Hi could I know how much – or a range – that an account executive with no experience, bachelor of business – marketing major could get? thank you a lot


  103. admin Says:

    qoh, maybe 2.5k to 3k?


  104. K Says:

    Hello! Very insightful page :-) … Just wanted to know if SGD2500 then is low for an outsourced HR MANAGER? I will be coming from the Philippines and the salary being offered is SGD2500. Or is this the norm when you’re outsourced? Thanks!


  105. olrac Says:

    i want to know the average rate for people working in shipbuilding. And also those Marine surveyors.


  106. ck Says:

    hi can i noe wat is a reasonable pay for a fresh grad for a job in the private wealth management sector?


  107. Genomes Says:

    Professors in N.U.S earns 50k a month


  108. June Says:

    Genomes,
    Prodessor in NUS earns $50k / mths? hard to believe!!!

    Any have idea whether how much a CFA qualified will get???


  109. ronaldo Says:

    if Professors in N.U.S earns 50k a month, then the average pay of a middle income earner in Singapore would be S$10k. Pigs can fly over the moon. Professors locally are the most stingy and thrifty professionals in SIngapore we know.


  110. ronaldo Says:

    Zulu :
    Anyone can advise on the pay for a recruitment consultant in an established executive search firm?

    About S$1.8K to S$2.5, depending on experience. Usually starting off at $1.8K


  111. ronaldo Says:

    i have a pal who is 27 years old this year and he’s earning S$12k as an Account Director in established ad agency firm. JWT or Satchi & S i think.

    I am a Media Director, my pay was S$9.5k basic. Within 2 months, I got confirmed way before my probation, promoted to Sales Director too and got commission/bonus element to my pay. Now I’m getting S$12k BASIC pay, excluding commission/bonus. I am only 28 years old this year.

    I consider my pay average. Because my aim is S$15k as basic only, excluding everything else.

    Admin, is this fair? Thanks!
    Ron


  112. Lac Says:

    hi would like to ask.. for a marketing executive with about 1 yr experience, what is the average salary range? thanks..


  113. Kwel Says:

    Hi Ronaldo,

    Please shut up and refrain from asking the same questions all the time. Are you trying to boast here? When people around us are earning less than S$8,000 a month, u are questioning whether 9K is less. If you don’t like your job in Singapore, please leave Singapore. Stop complaining.


  114. Science Says:

    Hi All,
    Is anyone out there can provide me a rough figure how much a Biochemist earn a month in a pharmaceutical company doing researches? I have a UK Master Degree, worked for a year in public health research, and joined a training program (18 moths) in the United States (sponsered by EDB). Cheers!


  115. Gracy Says:

    Totally agree with Kwel!


  116. orbit Says:

    Hey Ronaldo,
    It’s either you full of hot air or your employers must be blind to pay you that much to troll on this board.


  117. ronaldo Says:

    Orbit:

    The reason why my pay is such because i can contribute back much more value than the amount they pay me. And also because I can genearte back so much new business. Most importantly, I am good enough.

    These are the reasons. All my friends I hang out with all earns S$9K & above, and some are earning 12K above… and we are all around 27 years to max 31 years old..

    I am not boasting, just stating the fact..

    cheers!


  118. ronaldo Says:

    Oh you guys can consider us high flyers if u like..

    but i consider us ordinary..


  119. lawyerguy Says:

    Dear Admin
    i am a law student with my bachelors from india and doing my masters at nus law. and i have to say that the legal markets here absolutely STINK
    ! how is it that the largest local law firm here a&g or for that matter others like rajah and tann or wong partnership pay only 4k/month??? indian law firms now pay more than that despite being smaller in size and having less clients.. so do tell me ?? how is this happening? coz if singapore wants to attract talent then how do you plan to afford them with a salary of 4k/month..it really is a JOKE. law firms here are holding back tons of money. and i mean TONS.. foreign law firms pay starting salary if 9k/month.. not including bonuses. i mean this is ridiculous. totally.


  120. ronaldo Says:

    lawyerguy, may i ask how old are you? :)


  121. ChinaWall Says:

    Hi Ronaldo,
    Like i say previously, you are doing fine but i guess your persistent on getting an answer here will be in vain. I guess the admin have already told you before that what you are getting are more than fair.So that answer your answer.

    I only can tell you that your answer that you are seeking here only can be answered by you yourself and your employer. if you don’t think what you are getting is not justifiable to your talent,bring it up to your board members,If you are smart, you know what i mean.

    People here do not really know you and what your worth to help you justified that.

    Cheers


  122. jen Says:

    hi, may I know the how much or the range of a safety officer with fire safety manager certification in manufacturing (semiconductor) can command? (with about 2 years of experience)


  123. ronaldo Says:

    Thanks ChinaWall ..


  124. kwel Says:

    hi lawyerguy,

    so, considering going back to India?

    u need to consider the company’s balance sheet and profit and expense statement before making a statement against the company. if u say that the companies in singapore should pay S$9,000 and above to the lawyer staff, then the fee they should charge their client should be higher than S$9,000? Who will pay for that high fee? Ridiculous high fee right? So, that reflects a lower salary too.

    Why not you consider the option of opening a legal firm and try charging S$9,000? And also try paying your staff good fees as you suggested? Would you do that?


  125. desperado Says:

    please let me know if there are any opening job position. I am kind of desperate earning only $1500/month.. I do almost everything… I am pretty much can do banking.. care to take in my resume.. Anybody.. help help!!


  126. WMF Says:

    hey desperado. change the name and don’t sound so desperate first.

    i think you do not even know what banking is. THINK through of what you want first. I think it is quite sad to go for a job only because it pays well. LOOK at the long term prospects.


  127. WMF Says:

    Ya RONALDO,

    I consider you ordinary. No biggie.


  128. Brainless Says:

    I brought in or involved in bringing SGD46mil of contract in 2007 but my pay is SGD2,800.00. What is fair?


  129. piggyming Says:

    Hi desperado. 1st thing u have to ask urself, wat is the pay tht wont make u feel not desperate.
    2nd will you be sure you will have more saving after getting a high pay job? human nature since i got high pay, just spend n spend n spend. 3rd which line in the banking r u looking at does it suit u?

    My take home is 1.5/mth and i still live happily. I have my bills to pay and a gf. Is just have to see how u manage ur pay. But anyway, if u r really interested in banking, just got ahead of ur interest.

    ps: there is no free lunch in this world.


  130. ronaldo Says:

    I’m ordinary at only 28 years old..

    Then the mean pay of executives here should be S$10 – 12K.


  131. WMF Says:

    Brainless,

    that sucks. millions worth of contracts and u’re getting less than 3k?

    i’ll set up a company. You bring me the millions. i’ll pay u $10,000k per month.


  132. WMF Says:

    Hey ZULU..

    a consultant in a search firm. If it’s a Good Establish firm like Robert Walters, MP, etc… they typically pay much higher. like S$3,500 and above with a great emphasis on commission.

    Someone who hits good profits typically gets back more than 10-20k per month.

    Of course, a single search assignment could take you months to complete.

    GOOD LUCK in joining the recruitment industry.


  133. ronaldo Says:

    WMF :
    “Someone who hits good profits typically gets back more than 10-20k per month.

    This is not true generally. Recruitment consultants dont even smell S$7K and above in gross. Mind you.. they cnt even get S$7K and above.. They are usually entry level or admin/data administration jobs they do.

    Iam not disrespecting such professions, but the ugly truth is such.

    Ron


  134. share leh Says:

    ronaldo, I know you think your income is “ordinary”, but you sometimes contradict yourself, eg. when you dismiss the (false) info on professor pay.
    Anyway, if what you said about your income is true (and that of your circle of friends), could you kindly share with all of us here how to be as successful as you and your friends?


  135. Keith Says:

    Hi, may i know what is the minimum starting salary for a inexperienced futures broker in Singapore? Thanks.


  136. Traveller Says:

    Hi!!Please help.I want to know the job scene for Logistics Industry.I am currently pursuing my Masters from NTU in Logistics.What is the average salary like and are the jobs readily available?
    Thanks


  137. zhe Says:

    I’m very intrigued at how a librarian can earn $4k a month, anyone care to share? Btw, are accountants in high demand in Singapore? Would like to know what is the starting pay of an entry level accountant with a cert in ACCA, no degree.
    Good day to all. =)


  138. David Seah Says:

    Hi Kwel,

    Great piece of advise for Ronaldo. Maybe he is just another so call foreign talent and doesn’t understand chinese proverb ” One mountain can be higher than a hill ”

    Yea…at his age, he thinks he is GOD.


  139. ronaldo Says:

    If people thinks I’m good, I have no problem with that. If people wants to worship me, I’m fine with that too.

    David Seah, if you think I’m GOD and worships me like a GOD, I have no problem with that too.

    Cheerios


  140. vv Says:

    what is the pay range in Singapore nowadays for fresh marketing graduate (from Australia) w/out relevant experience?
    thanks!


  141. Young & Ignorant Says:

    Hi all,
    does anyone know what can one do with a degree of biological sciences from NTU and how much will he earn?
    Thanks in advance.


  142. John Says:

    wow… I am not too sure about all the discussions here. Maybe I haven’t seen the real world yet.

    I am still studying my degree. I have this impression that i will hold a job for around $2.4k and the max i can reach is $3k when i reach 30.

    But people here are talking about salaries >$5k in their 20s.

    I am missing something? Or my info is outdated?


  143. Question Says:

    HI! would appreciate your advice on:

    1. what does MP mean?
    2. Are you talking about net or gross salaries?
    3. How much is the tax rate in singapore?
    4. How much does a 2-year experience and a master’s degree in financial engineering from NTU merit (monthly net income?)
    5. Where should I work given such degree?


  144. Question Says:

    Hi Ronaldo are your foreign? I wish I have your luck in job search!

    I read that you are into media and advertising. I would want to earn extra income maybe through modeling. I’ll be in Singapore this August. What are the ad agencies in Singapore? (Please let me so I amy apply!) Do models apply or they are spotted in the streets?
    1. What are model qualifications?
    2. How much is the pay per shoot?
    3. Are shoots done at day or night? Are they scheduled based on the availability of the model or not?


  145. ronaldo Says:

    Hi,

    I guess there’s no such thing as a guaranteed success formula for job search/selection. I think it would boil down to some luck, hard work to do your homework (research and check which company is a good fit), and basically present what hiring companies would like to see in a candidate.

    My two cent’s worth


  146. Question Says:

    Ronaldo since you are into advertising, may you please answer my questions regarding modeling?

    Any one into finance/NTU graduate please answer my other questions :)

    Many Thanks!


  147. ronaldo Says:

    Hey Question,

    Pls read up on the industry specs before you ask silly retard questions. Modeling industry and media advertising industry are totally different. Dont ask me those questions, go ask someone in that trade.

    It’s like me asking a fishmonger selling fish in a wet market, how much it costs to learn fly fishing or deep sea fishing from him.

    You get my point??


  148. royal Says:

    Wow officebug $250K bonus, almost two years salary! :o


  149. Question Says:

    Officebug where do you work? What foreign bank!!! I’ll apply.
    Can you also share with me your background like what course you took in school, graduated from, and years of experience.
    I’ll need your piece of advice :)


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  151. David Seah Says:

    Ronaldo, think u misunderstood me. I am not saying u are GOD but u think u are the best paid guy in the worldwide world that you are in here blasting at every other poor souls in need of advise.

    What’s so great about 12K or 15K basic? Big deal…I think I am definitely closer to god than you Ronaldo when I fly high as a corporate jet pilot and making a cool high 6 figures annual income is all I care.

    Guys do not let this guy run you down with some nasty words. You find your own niche and create the best of what you’ve got to get your well- deserved job. High income does not equal to enjoying the job. Trust me. You don’t want to be working till late night and endless over time meetings to attend as well.

    Good luck everyone.


  152. Evelyn Yap Says:

    Hi, anyone has a rough gauge of the salary adjustment for this year?


  153. Traveller Says:

    Hi!!Please help.I want to know the job scene for Logistics Industry.I am currently pursuing my Masters from NTU in Logistics.What is the average salary like and are the jobs readily available?


  154. Avn Says:

    Hi Lawyerguy and Kwel,
    4k for lawyers starting pay is pretty low. Hongkong is a great place to compare and they pay between 8k to 12k for lawyers starting pay.

    Honestly, given the working hours, I think 8k basic is reasonable. As for Kwel’s concern that this cost is “passed” on to consumers, this is not quite true. The correlation is not direct. A junior associate charges 200 dollars per hour billing the client. But this money goes to the firm. So technically if a junior associate works say 20 hours he would have earned the firm 4k. And we certainly work more than 20 hours a month.

    So the clients are still getting billed at least 200 dollars per hour to maybe 2k+ for senior lawyers like Davinder (could be more, not too sure). At the end of the day, paying the junior associates more is a drop in the bucket for big firms.

    But there is a consolation lawyerguy, the curve for legal pay in Singapore is an exponential curve. When you make equity partner it is actually quite likely that you will earn as much or even more than your international law firm counterparts.

    That said, I’m all for higher local pay for lawyers =)


  155. witty Says:

    HI ronaldo. Since you are from advertising and media industry, can you tell me where do industrial designers stand, and about how much do they earn mthly? Becoz i am about to pursue this course in nus and will like to know more. it seems like industry designers are totally not mention here. And to my understanding industrial designers also deal with forming product to packaging it. So where should ID be considered under? Another question is that how will people be headhunted? how do companies find out about the talents?


  156. Viwawa Says:

    Hi Ronaldo,

    May i know which agency you’re working in? How come there is a Sales Director position in a media advertising agency? Cos i thought you service clients or pitch for accounts?

    Pls enlighten me.. Thanks


  157. ronaldo Says:

    Don’t get me wrong I have no intentions to ” blast” anyone here and I have definitely didn’t put anyone down on purpose. I have no malice here but I am stating my truth. If no one believes me, so be it. If people believes me, I also don’t really care too. Just as long as my pay check reaches my bank account every month end , I am happy becos I can carry on my spendings and savings.

    I didn’t say my salary in excess of 12K is great. I just felt its fairly sizable. David, there are definitely merits for being corporate jet pilot as maybe you can get a fatter paycheck. But as the rewards are good, you have a heavy risks too. You can fly and soar the skies like a bird but you can crash like there’s no tomorrow too.

    Btw I don’t have to work late nights as you might have suggested. I usually knock off as I fancy normally 5-6ish pm. Though I am in media, but I control my time well and delegate things FYA properly. More importantly, i make the final decisions.

    Good luck to flying the skies, just make sure you don’t crash

    Cheers!
    Ron


  158. ronaldo Says:

    Don’t get me wrong I have no intentions to ” blast” anyone here and I have definitely didn’t put anyone down on purpose. I have no malice here but I am stating my truth. If no one believes me, so be it. If people believes me, I also don’t really care too. Just as long as my pay check reaches my bank account every month end , I am happy becos I can carry on my spendings and savings.

    I didn’t say my salary in excess of 12K is great. I just felt its fairly sizable. David, there are definitely merits for being corporate jet pilot as maybe you can get a fatter paycheck. But as the rewards are good, you have a heavy risks too. You can fly and soar the skies like a bird but you can crash like there’s no tomorrow too.

    Btw I don’t have to work late nights as you might have suggested. I usually knock off as I fancy normally 5-6ish pm. Though I am in media, but I control my time well and delegate things FYA properly. More importantly, i make the final decisions.

    Good luck to flying the skies, just make sure you don’t crash

    Cheers!!
    Ron


  159. ronaldo Says:

    witty -

    industrial designers dont fall in media agencies, they should be more in creative or interative design agencies. Being in pure creative/interactive agency is entirely different from media planning agency. Sorry i’m not sure about ID.

    As for being headhunted, you can maybe direct your question to David Seah. He’s a corporate jet pilot and making a cool high 6 figures annual income is all he care. Considering him being a pilot, he have to be guaranteed a higher package than me, though I also make a 6 figures annual income. But i think 6 figures annual income is no big shit.

    Ron


  160. ronaldo Says:

    Not all media ad agency remains traditonally pure servicing and planning. Leading agencies have created precinct or new roles and scopes for their agencies to accomodate ever changing brand and consumer trends globally. Sales and revenue has always remain the foray for agencies to maintain and break new highs.

    Not all agencies dare change. Only the leading ones or top ones do. Look at Starcom.


  161. Esther Says:

    I am been offered a position from my previous company. My last pay at my ex-company was as a Sales Manger at S$3725/mth, and since then i have made career change for Snr Sales Engr which pay S$3200/mth. The new job offer is Sales/Technical manager for asia pacific. I was wondering what pay package should i demand. I have 13years of experience in this job, so i should expect more than just 10-20% pay increase? Can advise? Thanks!


  162. David Seah Says:

    Hahaha…Ronaldo, nice and wonderful analysis.

    For your info, I don’t need to be a corporate jet pilot to crash from the skies. When one is down on luck. Even anyone driving on the road can also crash and die easily or even choked to death on eating or passenger liner ship can sink while on holiday.

    In fact according to statistics, flying is so much more safer than driving a car or riding a bike.

    My rewards are fantastic and attractive. Risk is down to minimium if one knows what he or she is doing cos we are darn well trained. And also I never mentioned that my salary package is higher than yours. Don’t put words into my mouth ya !!!

    Yea you can control your time well and delegate things FYA properly. More importantly, you make the final decisions. So be it,that’s your choice!!! But for me, best part is I don’t even have to go to office everyday and get paid every month. All I have to do is just to wait for a phone call while I get to enjoy golf like most big CEOs during weekdays while most people are working in the offices.

    Yea having a 6 figure annual income is no big deal or “shit” as u call it, but to be able to make couple of millions for me in just 3 years is a Big Shit to me.

    To some of our fellow readers here, even making 5 figures income is a big deal to their family. So I am quite piss when u mentioned to you it’s no big “SHIT”

    Pls spare a thought for some people here who don’t earn as much when u make such crude and insensitive comments.

    Thanks


  163. witty Says:

    So Mr David Seah,
    how were you being headhunted? Curious to know…
    Is there anything achievements that you have made that makes the reason behind this?


  164. David Seah Says:

    Hi Witty,

    How I wish I am headhunted. Please don’t listen to the rubbish comments from Ronaldo about me being headhunted. To be honest, I applied for my job from an opening opportunity in Europe. I had to attend a couple of interviews before being shortlisted, just like any professional occupation. I wish you all the very best in your search for your dream career.

    To Ronaldo,

    Please, if you have no whatsoever kind intention or advise to Witty’s question on being headhunted possibility or opportunities. Pls keep your big mouth shut !!!!

    Why drag me into the picture and pass me the baton to help you ans his or her question? The headhunted query is directed at YOU !!

    What do you guys think of such a character? Ronaldo, you don’t have to post 2 same reply same day different time on 21st May 10:04pm and 10:10pm. Really made you look silly.


  165. Avn Says:

    For all it’s worth, Ronaldo is pretty obnoxious. If personality were a job criterion I would certainly retrench him.


  166. David Seah Says:

    Dear Avn,

    With his professional, personal integrity and personality in serious doubt.

    Also made me really wonder if his employer is real blind to employ such a cocky employee.

    Ronaldo, u can curse me with a plane crash. Don’t worry I am very well insured with a 7 figure sum guranteed. Never has anyone bless me with a plane crash except you, a person with an evil heart and arrogant tone.

    Everyone here reading this thread including Mr Admin have witnessed yr cursing of me with a plane crash and best of all mighty God knows. So u better watch out, u better donate more to victims of China earthquake or MYANMAR hurricane!!! You never know when you will have “your crash” as well for it could be 10 times worst.

    Good luck


  167. becca Says:

    i recently got accepted by a local MNC for my internship. however, many of my friends say that i’m wasting my time in applying for something that pays low. they say that i could actually gain more experience if i find a job outside rather then internship. so pls advise.


  168. Question Says:

    Hi David Seah,
    Thank you for supporting us. Yes, I do feel terrible with all the things Ronaldo says. I hope he gets banned from this site.


  169. David Seah Says:

    Question,

    No worries. Some people just love to feel elite at a young age ( he mixed with people earning 9K and above ). I can understand that, but just a matter of fact being cocky and arrogant at that age will not get him too far in life later on.

    I will just say his presence here boasting his capability at his age is annoying everyone for sure.

    Given his IQ level to post 2 replies to me within mins as mentioned in above few posts and asking people here is his salary high enough, made him looked darn silly more likely a nincompoot. I seriously doubt this chap is a Media director !! Perhaps he is just a bogus, a pathetic student studying for his A levels.

    Cheers


  170. ronaldo Says:

    Hey David Seah,

    you said you can make a couple of millions in just 3 years, so surely your package is much higher than me. so why say i put words in your mouth, saying you make higher than me.

    it may be true you play golf like CEOs every afternoon, waiting for a phone call. so what? i dont really care. u have your life to lead and i have mine to lead.

    if people here are making lesser amounts than you are, please stop boasting that you can make $3 million in 3 years and you are very well insured with a 7 figure sum guranteed. Lesser people here might get their self-esteem crushed and more depressed hearing you boast so much like a cock. some of them might even get annoyed and angry at your arrogant comments you make about yourself.

    Even though u can make more than me, I dont really care. I am 28 this year and i am fairly contented with my pay, bonus and perks. You can pilot a plane, no big shit. My friend who is only 25 years owns a company that manufactures and sells yachts and speedboats from Chong Qing China and I can ride his ships FOC. He is the kind of people I hang out with. He too is like you no need to work in office, because he works as a life planner in Great Eastern but got promoted to Associate Manager within 7 months only, and owns the yacht company as a CEO, and also helps his family with his jewlery business. He can as and when take his time and space to work.

    I may have to go to office to work and I am helping my friend as a Marketing Director for his yacht company and working on weekends too. But i am happy with all my benefits and pay i get. Because i just bought a BMW Z4 for $205, 000 and I can afford it.

    Whether you believe i am who i am is up to you. But now i can HA HA HA to you. Because I think my future is very bright at only 28 years old. And i can afford most things in life i might want now.

    Ron


  171. ronaldo Says:

    BTW if i tell you his monthly income of my friend who owns the yacht is from SGD$150,000 A MONTH being a life planner at Great Eastern and all this income is excluding his revenue from yachts and ships yet. Do you believe? Haha..

    I can ask him to show you his bank account David Seah. So stop boasting about yourself earning $3 mill in 3 years. You are not that fantastic at your age of 30s.

    Im tired of your whining and bitching. Believe it or not up to you. My pocket is full of cash is all i know. I only own 2 credit cards but the rest of my wallet is bulging with cash.


  172. ronaldo Says:

    If you think I am bullshitting to you about my friend. Look at yesterday’s paper’s in Strait Times. He got featured in the papers. He’s Steven Foo, 25 years old.


  173. David Seah Says:

    Hello Ronaldo,

    Cool off man !!! IF YOU ARE FOR REAL ..why bother to keep blasting off all your hot airs here. You should be more than matured enough than this long writing of 3 segments of “whining” yourself. Aren’t you pot calling the kettle black !!! If you are really a Media Director. You would keep your mouth shut and be happy with what you are getting.

    Anyway, everyone reading this page agree that you are an Asshole here !!!

    Once Again…u putting words into my mouth. When did I ever mention that I make 3 millions in “3 years”….pls read properly or either you are blind or badly need a pair of specs. Go for an eyesight check lah !!!

    Gentlemen, what do you guys think of this Mighty hot Ronaldo here telling you all how great and fantastic he is ?? Do we really care about such hot shot?

    Mr Admin, pls take care of this RONALDO here. Maybe send him a private message to his email. Thanks.


  174. nsmen Says:

    if my family owns jewellery business, i don’t think i need to work..haha…


  175. Orbit Says:

    Seriously, everyone should just ignore this Ronaldo. What help/advice has he brought this is thread other than booasting what he has?? Absolutely nothing, all useless posts.

    Please ban him.


  176. Orbit Says:

    Thank you David Seah. Someone really needs to “wake up his bloody idea”.


  177. Xpat Says:

    Ronaldo, you are such a jerk!
    People who are like you, at your age and only cares about boasting how much money they make, i wonder how bright their future will be. Prolly you end up having a wonderful time in coffin. You are such an unpopular guy, no matter how successful you are.
    Please go home and think about what success really means to you and get out of this website.
    Good night! (to you in the Dark)
    Thanks David Seah and Orbit


  178. tc Says:

    Hi, I’m from Malaysia and did a twinning program in Germany majoring in Electrical and Electronics Engineering. I would like to know what is the pay range for fresh grads for electrical, power systems and electronics engineer. Thanks.


  179. Soso Says:

    Mmmmm….what is enough?? If you live in S’pore, possibly earning $9K/mth is a sign of social indequacy and lack of imbition. What abt if you’re from the Philippines? Where doctors earn abt US$400 per month…. U think they r thicker than u??


  180. voi Says:

    anyone knows about the career prospect of getting a degree in mass communications?


  181. j-ling Says:

    Dear admin,

    I am an advertising copywriter. Wow. No. 39. Not bad.

    Is it because the demand is higher than supply??


  182. Shuen Pei Says:

    Greetings.. after reading long thread of postings, i find that there are many making 9k up than not. Need donations.. anyone?


  183. ronaldo Says:

    I dont really care what other people think of me nor does most of my other pals..

    I am fairly contented with my benefits, pay etc and I think I am reasonable enough. If any of you think I am a jerk etc, most probably you are less paid/ lowly paid and lack of ambition in life.

    Frankly, i dont give a damn really what other people think of me.. as long as I think I am good enough is what matters most to me..

    At 28 and getting 12k and I can get what i need and desire in life is the only thing that truly matters to me.

    Cheerios!


  184. ronaldo Says:

    nsmen,

    if everyone thinks like you, the rich wont be richer.. money no matter how great will always diminished over time from spending


  185. ronaldo Says:

    good point Shuen Pei .. i am looking to get a yacht.. donations anyone? or you can buy from my pal.. give a good discount.


  186. Jin Says:

    Maybe sharing success expierences, job scopes and responsibilities would be way better than keep telling others whats your renumerations for your job. I’m really surprised to know a financial planner could earn that much. How he did that ? Sleeping with rich clients ? (no offence just really curious about this) So can i safely say an average financial planner gets 10k per month with less than 4 years exp taking that u started at age of 21.


  187. lky Says:

    Anyone know how much the following earns:

    Lieutenant Colonel / Colonel in SAF
    Deputy Superitendant / Superitendant in Police Force ?


  188. Bartholomew Says:

    How much you earn now is no indication of your future earning potential. For fresh graduates, your first two jobs should help you to learn the ropes and increase your worth. Thereafter, either you like what you have been doing and continue in the same line or consider changing vocation. For those in yoiur twenties, you should upgrade your qualification to as high as reasonably practicable. All the best!


  189. ronaldo Says:

    Hi Jin,

    if you want to know more, i can get you in touch with my pal who is in Great Eastern. He makes at least 4 times more than me.

    Thanks!
    Ron


  190. June Says:

    Hi Admin,

    Can you please advise standard salary package for sales? I have recently been offered of basic SGD 9000 + Commission + standard claims i.e. medical, phone, trvl by an mnc for the position of sales manager. I was wondering if the standard salary package should include a 13 month bonus or any additional performance bonuses components?? Just wondering.


  191. LYS Says:

    are u kidding??9000 basic is alot already.


  192. kyc Says:

    Hi Admin and everybody out there,

    I am a Malaysian having a PhD in Electrical Engineering from Germany with 6 months post-doc experience in one of the research institute in Germany.

    Due to family reason, currently I am thinking to apply for a scientist/researher position in research institute e.g. IME or IMRE or to university like NUS.

    How much should I qoute for my expected salary, I mean how much should I ask in my application letter? I am now 30 years and have three years working experience in one of the Malaysia University before coming to Germany for my PhD.

    My current salary in Germany in the research institute is gross ~ 3k Euro (after tax ~2k Euro)

    Please advice promptly.

    Thank you very much!
    kyc


  193. lucky guy Says:

    Ronaldo, I am happy you have such a high salary. But i find it derogatory when you keep asking admin (and others) if it is enough. Surely that is fishing for compliments. I became a director too when i was 28 some years back, and my pay was in excess of 200K a year then. I will not say it was because I am good or smart or talented, but because I was lucky to have a good network and such an opportunity came by at the right time. By the way it was not in the media industry, but in IT.

    I will readily admit my pay is way higher than the singaporean average – even then I did not buy a BMW, just a normal japanese sedan as I think how people really gauge you is not from the cars you drive, nor the money you earn, but the kind of respect you give to them.

    Even now I am very conscious that I have the good fortune to earn a high income, and I treasure it a lot by carrying myself with more humility and less pride, and also honing on my working attitude.

    I hope your 12K salary will not carry you over the clouds – as you said, 28 is young, so past glories could be gone in flash as youth is impermanent, and so is financial success.


  194. Howcome Says:

    I like it when I hear people earning more than I do when I was their age. That means I can probably learn something from them.
    Lucky guy, sure, luck may play a big role in your big income, but I’m sure you have the capability to back it up as well–so kudos to you!


  195. lucky guy Says:

    Hi howcome, thanks for the compliment – luck really plays a part believe me. Everyone is talented but it takes a chance of fate for someone else to recognise that, and of course one’s gotta be ambitious too. Thanks again :)


  196. W Says:

    Hey Ronaldo,
    I just inherited a large sum of money from a relative who has unfortunately passed away.
    Lets just say i own you and your yacthing pals put together. Don’t be an @ss, there are alot of richer people than you. By the way im still studying, i didnt even have to work for the money.

    =)


  197. ChinaMan Says:

    Hi, Funny correspondence. I am Singaporean based in Shanghai living a relative comfortable exec pay. I am planning to return to Singapore and trying to look for some ideas on my payscale. This is the reason how i run into this. Actually I have already fixed up some agreement with my Ex-company before I got this opportunity of overseas posting, I will be enjoying more than 1/2 of my pay cut and I am satisfied with this.

    Mr. Ronaldo, nice to have a pay package like yours, I congrats you on this! But in life, there are other things to really care about. Famliy, friends, respect, etc etc. I pray that you are doing well on these other aspect in life as well.

    :P


  198. ronaldo Says:

    lucky guy, nice to know you earned very high package when you were late twenties. an achievement no doubt. :)

    W – great to know you are that “rich”.. cheers to you.. but you dont own anyone.. much less me.. becos though i have a cap to my basic but my bonuses and commissions are uncapped as are my benefits.. and i own my time and i dont report to no one in my company becos i have total flexibility.. good luck to ur studies, its no use studying very much becos qualifications alone dont determine how much you will earn.. for your info i have double masters degree and first class honors degree.. but my salary is not purely determined by that but more importantly my performance.. so no matter what you are studying now.. its no big deal to me.

    -Thanks for your congrats Chinaman.. im fairly happy with my benefits etc now..


  199. Timothy Says:

    hi, i am very lost. Is it possible to tell me what is the coporate ladder if i study journalism or communications. Compared to finance and all, the communications industry seems to have bad prospects. Even the top paying job which is editor pays only 6K. is there any higher post than that and what is the pay like. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you


  200. Dragon Says:

    The finance industry is like IT back in the mid to late 90s.

    Everyone wants to go in for the money, whether they enjoy the work there or not.

    Give finance a couple of years, its going to be flooded like how engineering and IT were flooded.

    Now what if you are there now and feeling miserable because you preferred journalism? You can’t go back, because you haven’t had any experience and you can’t start as an editor with 6k!


  201. ronaldo Says:

    great advise dragon!! cheers!


  202. Timothy Says:

    so dragon i bet from what u are trying to say is just to follow ur interest as u never know what the finance industry will fall due to poor economy? actually i’m just lamenting the fact that if i do journalism or communications the ladder to climb is slow and opportunities a few.


  203. Dragon Says:

    Actually 6k as an editor can’t be all that bad. If you look at MOM’s salary survey, 6k puts you at the top 30% (at least) of most of us people earning a saary out there.

    I think the finance industry where everyone seems to be telling you that they are earning 10k a month is spoiling the rest of the market out there. :)


  204. Timothy Says:

    that’s true la.. but looking at the number of editor post out there is damn sad compared to the finance industry. if u know what i mean. well it’s always a question mark over what’s more worth it i guess


  205. DP Says:

    This Ronaldo is one hell of an irritating boastful young punk. So much for his double Masters & first class honors degree but who yet can’t present himself properly. What kind of media director is he? More like one waiting to get sacked. Some local university fresh grads earn more than him. What’s there for him to brag aloud???


  206. Finance pays well all the time Says:

    @Dragon, I disagree with you.
    Finance has been paying well since the age of industrialization, and will still be paying well way into the future until the Star Trek generation (in which money doesn’t matter) becomes a reality.
    New York, London, Hong Kong and Tokyo have a long history of paying bankers obscene salaries. Singapore soon too.
    You can’t compare finance with transient bubbles like dotcom and life sciences.
    True, sometimes you see thousands getting the sack in ibanks, but high rewards come with comparatively higher risks than other industries which btw also retrench people when times are bad.
    I honestly believe the risks are worth taking.


  207. Dragon Says:

    Timothy, I am feeling the same way too. In fact, everytime I hear about the obscene salaries paid by the finance industry, I begin to feel sorry for myself.

    Sometimes I ought to stop and start counting my blessing.

    I do know that the finance industry pays well since the beginning of time. But I am not from a banking background, and to do what I do in the bank makes me part of the tech and ops team…. will these profile pay as well in the near future?


  208. 15 year old kid Says:

    hello, as my name implies, im only 15 but i would like to know which career path reaps the greatest salary? please don’t tell me the “follow your passion” thing, im sick of it, even so, im confident you can help me with finding the path i should take to get the best paying job in future.

    my details
    School: hwa chong institution, sec 3.

    what job should i take?
    what courses in JC/POLY and University?

    thanks alot. answer me kayy? thankyou(:


  209. Dragon Says:

    When I was 15, I loved computers. I wrote codes in BASIC, configured online bulletine board systems and had my friends dial in to download files. I pretty much tried every (pirated) software there are. I love technology and when I see something new, I wanted to know how it was done. I love reading about them too.

    Fast forward 15 years later. I am an academic, and still spend most of my life doing pretty much the same thing. I am an academic and enjoys as much as 70% of my job.

    I don’t get as good a salary as most of my peers, and I hear comments like “Those who can, do and those who can’t teach” all the time. It’s demoralizing, but I know deep within myself that I love my job, and I make a helluva lot more difference when I successfully make the undergrads I teach love technology as much as I do.

    Does money matter? I don’t have an answer. But what I went through seem to imply that if you follow your passion, its a matter of keeping the minds full and the stomachs empty.

    Sorry, I don’t think I answered your question.


  210. DP Says:

    Dear Dragon, it’s people like you who’ve made the world much better through their passion and conviction for what they do, not those money-grabbing, self-serving maniacs. I gave up passion for more financial security by going for an accountancy qualification and am now in a finance role, instead of a career in science. Looking back, it might still have been better to follow my passion as when the going gets tough, keeping up with what you have to do instead of what you’d really like to do is really difficult. Anyway, who could have forseen then that biomed is quite an in-thing.

    Academics have a very good purpose as well, in teaching good fundamental principles and practices to the future members of the workforce, and who knows maybe you’d strike a goldmine by hitting upon a great invention later in your life, it’s never too late. Anyway, even the very wealthy don’t wash their faces with birdnest nor bath in sharksfin everyday. How much can one eat?

    So for our dear 15 year old, please bear with my same old advice to you of following thy passion and exceling in it- it is something that’s likely to be stuck with you for life while we can’t really crystal-gaze the fortunes of the future.

    Best Regards to All


  211. Dragon Says:

    Thanks DP. It’s tormenting everytime someone says something about the low academics pay and that academics can’t make it in the real world.

    Finding a purpose in life is tough. Having found it and then convincing yourself to give it all up to go seek the money is even tougher because you know you are giving up what you love most for the bread and butter.

    It’s painful, and you know what? I am in the middle of putting myself through this stage right now…


  212. Professor Says:

    Dragon, if you’re a prof, your pay will be around $200k. You call that low meh?
    See http://www.salary.sg/2007/salaries-...


  213. To 15 year old kid Says:

    Top your class, get a gold in maths olympiad, go to MIT on ppmm scholarship, top the class there, and start your career in wall street.
    Or, quit school now, start a small biz maybe online one, save up, expand your biz, go regional, get listed, and when share price shoots up, gracefully exit by selling all your shares.


  214. Dragon Says:

    Hi Professor,

    Unfortunately, I am not a professor.

    Anyway, an assistant professor gets paid 8k a month, but professors gets 9 out of 12 months pay. The other 3 months, they have to earn money by providing consultancy services. Many don’t…


  215. kyc Says:

    Hello Dragon,

    U mean as an assitant professor in NUS or NTU, one can earn 8K starting pay?

    And what do you mean by 9 out of 12 months pay for professor, do you refer to full professor? what about assistant prof? do they also get 9 out of 12 months pay?


  216. Dragon Says:

    Yes, I think the starting salary of an assistant professor is in the 8k range. But to be an assistant professor, one would have gone through years as a postgrad student, fellow, lecturer etc. It really isn’t that high if you consider the fact that most people get their PhD only in the 30s, and they are studying and earning allowance when most people are out there earning a “real” salary.

    As far as I know, professors gets paid only 9 months a year. But this salary is spreaded over 12 monhs. I don’t know if this happens to an assistant professor as well. Sorry, I am not one. :) I may go down this path in years to come, but not now.

    Those in the know, please fill in the blank.


  217. Assistant Prof Says:

    An assistant prof gets paid 8-10k a month for 12 months a year. Whether or not he makes extra during the 3 special months is up to him (and maybe his agreement with the uni).


  218. kyc Says:

    Hello Dragon and Assistant Prof,

    Thanks for the info.

    I have further questions which I hope you could help:

    I got my Ph.D degree from Germany in Jan 08 and have 6 months post-doctoral experience in one of the research institute in Germany. I have authored about 13 ISI journal papers (3-4 in top tier journals). I have also 3 years lecturing experience in one of the university in Malaysia prior to coming to Germany for my Ph.D in Jan 2005.

    At the moment, I am thinking to apply for a position in NUS or NTU, can I ask for an assistance prof position, or should I first ask for a lecturer position? And how much should i qoute for my “expected salary” in my application letter. And I am a Malaysian and have not worked in Singapore before.

    In case I cannot get a position at NUS or NTU, I think I would try IME or IMRE (A* start national research institute). In this case, how much should I ask in my applications for position in IME or IMRE, given my experience?

    Thank you in advance for your help.


  219. media boss Says:

    Hi Ronaldo, I am looking for a media director, and you seem like a good fit based on the interesting material you are posting.

    I have a few kids I want you to take care and mentor. Two of them are 2 yrs out of Harvard and Boston U, early 20s, and they need a good guide like you. They are already earning in excess of SGD450k/yr excl perks and bringing in about SGD5-8m of revenue each. I am sure you bring in at least SGD20m given your position, and connections, so if you are keen to be challenged, you are welcome to join the club.

    Forget your pathetic BMW Z3, and no name yacht company friend. You are destined for bigger things like an Aston Martin / Bentley Continental GT and a Gulfstream jet. Why sink when you can fly?

    But make sure you meet my criteria first – >SGD20m in sales.

    Thanks. The MB.


  220. DP Says:

    Dear Dragon, understand your feeling..all of us encounter these torment now & then, that’s why we’re in this forum :) Anyway, we’re all paupers standing beside Li Kah Shing who wears a $50 casio, so it’s quite relative. I’ve seen first hand some billionaire family members but i think they live and carry themselves quite normally too.. So sometimes i think we’re somewhat short-changed but then there’re many others in worse plight. After that, you’d feel normal again and the bread & butter issue becomes smaller. That’s the thing about living in S’pore, we eat at the same stuffy coffeeshop but there’re folks around who earn many times more and there’re those who earn many times less too.., and we complain the same about prices going up :)


  221. Dragon Says:

    Sorry kyc..I am not an assistant professor. I think the others are in a better position to answer you.


  222. 15 year old kid Says:

    hmm then in U right, should i take law or accountancy, which path more money to earn?


  223. To 15 year old kid Says:

    The US system is different, but to keep it simple: if you make it to MIT, take engineering, computer science or math. Make sure you top the class and interview with the wall st firms.
    If you stay in Singapore, finance, law and accountancy are all ok.


  224. Assistant Prof Says:

    To kyc: If possible you should try the western countries first, esp US, before returning to south east asia. Definitely ask for an asst prof position and put down around 100k USD as expected annual salary.
    Hope this helps.


  225. arnie Says:

    I am 33 years old, married with no kids. I have 11 years experience in IT industry; is a S$6000 p.m job(as a IT project manager) worth considering? There are no frills


  226. Dragon Says:

    what’s the bonus like arnie?


  227. arnie Says:

    Dragon,There’s no bonus,housing allowance etc. :-( .. Also I am being offerred 12 days paid leave and 6 days sick-leave. Is it a fair offer?


  228. Dragon Says:

    Generally paid leaves goes anywhere from 14 to 21 days. Is this a substantial increase from your last job?


  229. kyc Says:

    Hello Assistant Prof,
    Thanks for the infos!

    Hello Dragon,
    Thanks for you reply too.

    Due to my family reason, I guess I will not try in Western countries, my wife is a government servant of Malaysia, and we been leaving aprt since 2005, so as a compromise now I think is time to find somewhere that we can live together, e.g. Johor,where I could still work in Singapore and she could tranfer to Johor to continue her government work.

    I will try to apply to NUS or NTU for an assitant prof. position. If not successful, i will then try out with IME or IMRS A* research instiute, I will ask for around SD 6K monthly pay.

    I will update you if I receive any positive response from them.

    Thanks again for your help and advices.


  230. Euro Says:

    Hello everyone.
    I am considering an expat offer in the coming weeks/ months in Singapore so inevitably landed on this interesting web site to gain further insight of what any Sg worker may inquire.
    While I have found the last post from Media Boss very much appropriate and pertinent, I am surprised you guys even spent time in responding to this Ronaldo. Sometimes, we have to realise that making certain people more intelligent than they are is just not possible. This is one of the limits of human being. Ronaldo – pls feel free to (re) attack, you will get no response from me. On my side, my current role keeps me so busy that I just cannot afford being distracted for it as long as you do Ronaldo (I am off today, so do not try to find out a logical aggressive reply – not applicable).
    All the best to the others and thank you for all such exchanges, which still bring some clarity for a (potential) newcomer like me. Cheers.


  231. Watch Says:

    Can those being headhunted ppl tell me how they were being headhunted? thks..
    TO Ronaldo;
    well im quite interested to know how did you manage to reach director postition, can you share? As if you cant be sitting at a director post immediately after grad rite, surely there is a route you went through and after experience then top director’s post rite?


  232. Dragon Says:

    Actually “head hunted” is grossly mis-used nowadays.

    If you placed my profile on monster.com and I receive a call to tell me that there’s a suitable position for me and I should send in my resume, am I being headhunted?


  233. Ronaldo's left ball Says:

    media boss Said:

    June 17th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
    Hi Ronaldo, I am looking for a media director, and you seem like a good fit based on the interesting material you are posting.

    I have a few kids I want you to take care and mentor. Two of them are 2 yrs out of Harvard and Boston U, early 20s, and they need a good guide like you. They are already earning in excess of SGD450k/yr excl perks and bringing in about SGD5-8m of revenue each. I am sure you bring in at least SGD20m given your position, and connections, so if you are keen to be challenged, you are welcome to join the club.

    Forget your pathetic BMW Z3, and no name yacht company friend. You are destined for bigger things like an Aston Martin / Bentley Continental GT and a Gulfstream jet. Why sink when you can fly?

    But make sure you meet my criteria first – >SGD20m in sales.

    Thanks. The MB.
    =========================

    media boss – Great stuff:) Ouch…

    Ronaldo ronaldo………….just remember this …wat goes around comes around…..


  234. Grandash Says:

    to kyc

    if you are applying to IMRE you should be able to get around 8-9k as a senior researcher. 6k is relatively low for your qualifications, a master degree in material science in IMRE earns that pay.


  235. jen Says:

    Hey all,
    Just wondering:
    Basic pay of a psychologist?
    The demand in Singapore?

    Thanks.


  236. light-in-dark Says:

    hi!
    can i know what is the salary range of mould/tool designers in singapore?
    Thanks


  237. David Seah Says:

    Quote from media boss Said to Mr mighty Ronaldo:

    “Forget your pathetic BMW Z3, and no name yacht company friend. You are destined for bigger things like an Aston Martin / Bentley Continental GT and a Gulfstream jet. Why sink when you can fly?”

    Don’t think Mr hotshot Ronaldo can even afford to charter my company private jet indeed !!!

    Well packaged scarcism Media Boss !!! Way to go.


  238. kyc Says:

    Hello Grandash,

    Thanks for your info!

    The pay that you mentioned for a senior researcher in IMRE (~8K) complies well to the pay for an assistant prof in university in NUS or NTU (~8-9K). I think this must be the standard pay for someone with PhD with somemore experiences.

    To me, the pay ~8K is already very high (for assistant prof or senior researcher positions) and i didn’t expect this amount of money before joining this discussion. What I knew was that, 10 years back, one with PhD joining as post-doctorate scientist in IME or IMRE would get about 4-5K. It seems that the pay increases considerably nowadays.

    I will apply to IMRE soon, and I will update here in this forum the salary package (if i receive an offer from them), so that the info can be useful for others.

    Thanks again to Grandash, Assistant Prof and Dragon for the informations!

    I hope this forum can continue to be a real resourceful forum for persons needing information for jobs evaluation, and not for persons like Ronaldo who tries to shows off his luck to others.

    I wish the others all the best and find good jobs !

    May god bless!


  239. blo Says:

    Hi,

    Seeing as how there are innumerable retail outlets in Singapore, would like to explore job opportunities in retail sector, preferably as head of bunch of stores/outlets or head of operations. What kind of salary could I expect ? Thanks.


  240. ronaldo Says:

    media boss dun talk BS around here plz..

    If you are so great, hats off to you. But whatever it is, I am contented with my Z4 and benefits. An Aston Martin or Bentley? .. Nothing to shout about. Its whether I want to buy it or not. Did i mention my job is not the only income stream I have.. I am also involved in other businesses.

    No name yacht company?? haha.. whatever dude.. It jealousy in peoples’ eyes I see.. I make minimum SGD50K each time I sell a yacht.

    Lastly, comparisons are always made. But i know there’s people better than me. No mountain is the highest. But I belive I am good.


  241. Dude Says:

    Geez, learn proper grammar dude! If Ronaldo is indeed for real (which I doubt), the people paying him/her are indeed idiots. Be that as it may though, I think he/she is just trolling so please don’t get too worked up over his/her posts.

    In my (not very) professional opinion, he or she probably has some sort of personality disorder. Probably narcissistic PD or else borderline from his very clingy “Look at me! Look at me! I’m the bestest, greatest, smartest (add other superlatives ad nauseam) thing ever and me and my rich friends will spit in your poor pathetic faces” followed by the false modesty of “despite the fact that we’re talentless wankers!”.

    Another DDx. is that he/she has schizophrenia with delusions of grandeur and other hallucinations, but that seems less likely as he/she is more or less coherent. Perhaps he/she is receiving adequate psychiatric treatment and so is still able to write coherently? In any case, I think it is irresponsible of us to encourage his/her fantasy by replying since it is encouraging the behavior, in which case we are perpetuating or at the very least impeding his/her recovery from the mental illness.


  242. DP Says:

    Who’s spouting bullshit, Mr Ronaldo? If you can make $50k min each time you sell a yacht, do you still have to earn that pittance of a salary as a media director? If I didn’t recall wrongly, every yacht you sell could let you lay off work for one-third of a year. You’d be better off selling yachts then.


  243. dude luv Says:

    Yo Ronaldo. It’s not how much money, position, wealth, etc now that counts. It’s whether we can sustain it. Just gimme your date of birth and I can tell whether you are the man or not ;-


  244. Premkumar Says:

    Hi, I am a sr software engineer with 3.5 yrs of exp in .NET (IT industry) is $2800(sigapore dollars) is normal or is it below par ?


  245. ginsoakedboy Says:

    Hi
    I have an offer of 8K nett +Biz expenses for an acct director position with a leading ad agency. Is this ok? am 28 yrs old with approx 8 yrs exp and planning to shift to Singapore.
    Negotiations are atill open, so any advice will be great.
    Thanks


  246. rootcare Says:

    Hello Admin,

    I have been offered for consideration the position of Regional Technical Development Manager. The negotiation for the job is in the process through an outsourcing company. How much would I indicate for the expected salary? Thanks in advance.


  247. windwaver Says:

    Hey ronaldo, your ‘pay’ is considered ok. My cousin 26 this year makes SGD$250K/year. It’s true and he works just downstairs where I work :) .

    To the rest of the folks here. Seriously, $$ can’t buy everything. It’s the process that matters, at the end of the day, every living creatures be it beautiful, ugly, tall, short, ugly, etc, etc still will die.

    If the process in life is what you want, makes you happy and doesn’t make you beg for food, it’s good enough.

    There’re many who make much more but doesn’t post here, just read and laugh it off :) .


  248. Howcome Says:

    @windwaver: What does your cousin do? :) (assuming he’s not invented for the sole purpose of putting down ronaldo’s imagination that is)


  249. DP Says:

    Don’t be affected by that Ronaldo lo. People talk serious stuff here and he talks nonsense. You can see he inflated his stakes for each post. Given such low EQ how many yachts could he sell? Probably only 1 in ten years. :)

    How many people have he rubbed the wrong way just by posting in one forum? Such immaturity but yet thinks of himself as some bigshot media director. What kind of content do you think he can come up with? Better that he does some self-reflection & soul searching.

    I talk regularly to people who earn many times more than he does but who are also much humbler


  250. Howcome Says:

    This is the internet mah… people can say anything one lah. People kena rubbed in a bad way by Ronaldo also can invent anything just to put him down.


  251. Girl at Crossroads Says:

    Hi there, everyone here sounds so experienced I feel kind of intimidated :P

    I’m graduating from the US next February – trying to decide between a job in the US, Malaysia, or Singapore. Although the obvious choice would be the US, but I miss home (Malaysia) and yet I crave for an opportunity to do MORE and of course, earn more! My parents didn’t pay a sh*tload of $$$ for me to earn a starting salary of RM2k…

    I’m a Marketing major with an Associate’s Degree in Fashion Merchandising. I have a 4.0 CGPA (Summa Cum Laude) and am a member of two honors societies. I also have several awards and certs under my belt. I did an internship at an international Fashion company’s headquarters in New York last summer.

    I’m aiming to work for a multinational FMCG or Retail group. What would a reasonable starting pay be like?

    Thanks in advance!


  252. Lex Says:

    “Girl at Crossroads”
    Its not clear to me whether you are graduating from business school or an undergrad program; Assuming that you are an MBA, I would say that for Singapore, you should be looking at around 70K S$ a year.


  253. Ronaldo Says:

    Hey girl, you should just join me – I can pay you 80K a year – but are you worth it? Like the rest of the BS’ters here who can’t walk the talk.


  254. Girl at Crossroads Says:

    Oh! Sorry I didn’t specify. I’m an undergrad who will graduate with a Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing and an Associates Degree in Fashion Merchandising.


  255. Career switch Says:

    Hi All,

    I am 29 this year and have been teaching in one of the polytechnic for coming 3 yrs. My pay is around 5.3k. I teach part-time in some university programmes and my gross monthly add up to $7k. I have a passive income of $3k from my rental and all these sum up to $10k but I just don’t feel good. I am looking for a career which can offer me $8-9k in basic.

    My specialization is in IT but my passion is in Finance, Foreign exchange (FX) trading. I have been reading FX and tried trading using Saxo platform. I think that I am good as I can make $6k a week using $2k as capital. (Some might wonder why don’t i trade for myself. As i have mentioned, i am interested in pursuing a career in FX) I am wondering what does it take to apply to a bank and join them as a FX trader.

    Anyone can advise?


  256. Lex Says:

    GAC
    I am more fmailiar with the opportunities/pay for MBAs. From what i’ve seen, your best bet would be to look to join a graduate progran at an MNC of your choice. Typically these are 12- 18 month programs where you will work in different functions/locations of the company; at the end of which you integrate as a manager, usually on a fast-track of some sort. In Sgp you would probably get around 3- 4k a month. Of course this will increase significantly once you complete the program.


  257. veerapan Says:

    To Career Switch,

    Your 30% return is definitely unsustainable. You are taking waaaay too much risk. My advice? Dont quit your day job.


  258. DP Says:

    Howcome Says:

    June 28th, 2008 at 7:32 am
    This is the internet mah… people can say anything one lah. People kena rubbed in a bad way by Ronaldo also can invent anything just to put him down.

    –>I think this website would then be more appropriately named http://www.salarybs.sg :)

    The occassional banter and digs are fine but when everybody’s bullshitting it becomes a real problem. So far the comments have been quite interesting and informative


  259. Poly Grad Says:

    Hi all.
    Can anyone advice on which School would be best to do part time degree in business/accounting in SG, recognized by most company and reasonable Course Fees. Seem that out there are part time degree which only take 2 yrs to complete, where as some take up to 3yrs.

    Now adays with a degree, then will be able to get higher pay and more job opportunities.
    In a few years time the 4th university would be set up, by then degree holder will be everywhere.

    So maybe it’s time to up grade.
    Really considering taking up a part time degree.


  260. Howcome Says:

    @DP, yeah I agree… it is a good website, that’s why I keep coming back. But this ronaldo and his opponents are obviously cowcrapping lah… maybe should have a separate site for boasting their imaginations at salarybs.sg :)


  261. sgdoc Says:

    I am a 29 year old doctor working in a restructured hospital. My basic pay is 4K. Allowance is less than 1 K.

    The salary conducted by MOM is obviously looking at specialists in their 40s or 50s.


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  263. windwaver Says:

    Howcome:

    Nah, my cousin’s real, he paid CASH for his condo in 3yrs. I’m not revealing his job but it’s among the top 5 in the list ;) .


  264. Al C Says:

    Ronaldo,
    Be thankful that you are earning so much more than most of us. Some people are barely scraping through with 2k SGD/month. Learn to carry yourself like Warren Buffett, the richest man in the world, who still stays in his old house for 30 years. If you wanna be respected, why not start parting %30 of your pay to people in need like those in Sichuan or Myanmar? Remember this, money can buy you a lot of things, but it cannot buy you true friends and more importantly, life. The probability of Man dying is and will always be 1.
    Hope you are able to gain some perspective on this and focus on other things.

    Mind you, I have a PhD and am earning way less than you are. I complain a bit but what the heck, I am still alive, which is good (after facing life-threatening scenarios). So please, be very thankful and think about how you can use your money for something purposeful. Cheers!


  265. Ronaldo Says:

    DP – “Some local university fresh grads earn more than him. What’s there for him to brag aloud???”

    What you are saying is Nonsensical and rubbish. Let’s just say by a scratch of our imagination, there are indeed a handful of fresh graduates getting more than me. i.e. BASIC > 12K. The amount in total is just 12K with a couple of bonuses at year end and some petty allowances. Add to that being new in the company, they must work hard and continously proved their worth for at least few months to a year.

    Now back to me. My basic is 12K. Add to this my allowance to entertain my clients/accounts/new business is uncapped and unlimited. Add to that I have a $200 phone allowance on my own personal mobile phone + a black berry phone with unlimited access to make calls outgoing + commission which is on average $2K per month with new business + corporate card to entertain my clients + totally flexible working environment here i can choose to lunch for 2 to 3 hours in between if i want to + i can leave office anytime after 4-5 pm if i am tired or if i feel like leaving office.

    Compare all this to the new fresh uni grad. I dont feel at all envious. I am born in the year 1981 Dec, so techincally I am stil not even 28 years old or 27 yet. Comparing the age of the fresh grad be it a guy or girl, youngest i give them 23 years old. So what? The differential in age is only 4 years. And I am up for my next performance review in September this year. With every review, my salary will go up minimum 10% or at least the standard guide in my company is such. But usually my increment is always expected to be 30% or least 25%.

    I also expect after end of the year or CNY, I will be given a 6 month monitoring period to succeed the role of AGM (assistant GM). Once i am successfuly, my position increases and my pay scale will be in a totally new dimension.

    I am not booasting nor lying. I don’t see the need to lie to anyone because doing so would be the BIGGEST lie to myself. I am happy with what i got but i really aspire to be more than what i can be. To break the barrier of being the best.

    I may only drive a BMW Z4 but at least I am not afraid or need to constantly look behind my back to see if i will be retrenched. Oil prices are sky rocketing, alot of pilots are being retrenched… lesser demand for air travel because air travel are becoming increasing expensive. ..they are becoming redundant. Watch it David Seah.

    windwaver – your cousin 26 years old, is making 250K per annum?? ridiculous and Nonsensical. Even any person opening their ass crack or opening their legs to people cannot even smell near that amount, even if they do it 24/7. What does your cousin do btw? He imagines monopoly money?? haha.. Nonsensical.

    I am not yet 27 years old until Dec this year. In chinese, my age is plus one so 28 coming. But the fact is I am only coming 27 years old and I am this much.

    Signing off,

    Regards, Ron


  266. Ronaldo Says:

    Oh typo error. even if the fresh grad makes > 12K. The amount in total is just slightly >12K with a couple of bonuses at year end and some petty allowances. Add to that being new in the company, they must work hard and continously proved their worth for at least few months to a year.
    … (the rest read from my previous post)


  267. windwaver Says:

    Ronaldo:

    Seriously, can’t help if you don’t believe. I probably can ask him to show you his deed 3 yrs later lol.

    He’s just 1 lucky fellow among my relatives. Many of my classmates are earning around your range, so, figure that out.

    Plus, they don’t usually come in here and post ;) .


  268. David Seah Says:

    Ronaldo, You are still full of yourself and bragging as much as before if not more.

    For all you know, I am a corporate aviator. Not any tom dick or harry’s airline pilot. So I don’t face retrenchment despite fuel price skyrocketing. In fact, that boost my income as wealthy clients, VVIPs can’t afford to have disruption from normal Airlines services. They rather fly private jets with privacy. Don’t you worry about me.

    STOP being a SMART ALEX !!!

    Everyone’s tired of your ego boosting. You have a real problem. Better to go see a psychiatrist at IMH.


  269. CJ Says:

    Hi forum, pardon me for intruding. What is the obsession surrounding this Ronaldo chap? Getting a 12k per month deal for an under-30 is no big deal these days if you are in the right industry. Investment banker, management consultant, entrepreneur and even credit card salesgirls have achieved that. I was one of them. If the money is good that’s usually a trade off elsewhere – long hours, frequent travel, crazy clients, earning uncertainty. Look at the hotshot here, his personality is clearly nothing to be envy about. Anyway, I am surprised that hotshot is 29 year old. His world view is certainly less matured.


  270. B.O.S.S Says:

    Hi all ,

    This is a plea to all everyone who read this..
    If everyone just ignore Ronaldo’s thread and carry on with what this thread was originally started for.I mean every thread..Dun even bother to comment a single word on his follow up remarks.

    He replied to save his face,so let pls let him do what he want to do..Just ignore him,Please stop fueling him with chances to even reply.( even this..)
    Please let him live in his own world, dun disturb him..DUN mention about him or his name again if he even tried to irritate anyone here!!!

    Your kind cooperation will bring stability to the future of this forum.


  271. DP Says:

    Ronaldo, I can smell sour grapes here but I would not want to waste time with you on all your allegations but only 2:

    –>”What you are saying is Nonsensical and rubbish. Let’s just say by a scratch of our imagination, there are indeed a handful of fresh graduates getting more than me. i.e. BASIC > 12K. The amount in total is just 12K with a couple of bonuses at year end and some petty allowances. Add to that being new in the company, they must work hard and continously proved their worth for at least few months to a year.”

    First thing, there’s no scratch of imagination. Just because you’re not well informed doesn’t mean there aren’t. Shame on you as a media director. I don’t know if you’re a foreigner or not, but at 27 going 28 years old you’re not that young; if you don’t serve national service, you’d have been in the workforce for a good number of years as compared to our young grads. Earning your kind of salary is no big deal. Just a simple example, a lawyer in an established firm at the same age will surpass you with $200k, and I can tell you there are plenty of such young high income earners in the finance and real estate industries.

    Your statement here reads rather conditionally and probabilistic:-

    “I also expect” after end of the year or CNY, I will be given a 6 month monitoring period to succeed the role of AGM (assistant GM).

    “Once i am successfuly”, my position increases and my pay scale will be in a totally new dimension.

    It’s equally likely that you get fired and as good as saying that if my properties appreciate in value by 50% more, I’d be getting another $5 mil.

    And you can even be bothered to mention your petty $200 phone allowance.. Go sell your lucrative yachts and you don’t have to be a slave
    to your blackberry


  272. windwaver Says:

    ronaldo Says:

    December 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pm
    $ 4, 000 a month for client service manager at 29 years old is pretty low rite? or good pay? position is in media agency.. thanks! anyone pls help reply..?

    ronaldo Says:

    April 7th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
    if Professors in N.U.S earns 50k a month, then the average pay of a middle income earner in Singapore would be S$10k. Pigs can fly over the moon. Professors locally are the most stingy and thrifty professionals in SIngapore we know.

    ronaldo Says:

    February 13th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
    Hi David Seah & Admin,

    I just joined as Media Director and i am 28 years old. My experience is in media, advertising & marketing. I was actually headhunted for this position.

    My pay is S$9,500 BASIC ,excluding entertainment, transport, handphone etc other allowances that is claimable.

    My two other pals are in Advertising agencies as Account Directors and they are paid about S$8-9 k BASIC with the same claimable perks. They are only about 27 years old.

    Admin, are these pay fair market value to us??

    Thanks!

    Cheers!
    Ron

    ronaldo Says:

    April 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
    i have a pal who is 27 years old this year and he’s earning S$12k as an Account Director in established ad agency firm. JWT or Satchi & S i think.

    I am a Media Director, my pay was S$9.5k basic. Within 2 months, I got confirmed way before my probation, promoted to Sales Director too and got commission/bonus element to my pay. Now I’m getting S$12k BASIC pay, excluding commission/bonus. I am only 28 years old this year.

    I consider my pay average. Because my aim is S$15k as basic only, excluding everything else.

    Admin, is this fair? Thanks!
    Ron

    ronaldo Says:

    April 7th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
    if Professors in N.U.S earns 50k a month, then the average pay of a middle income earner in Singapore would be S$10k. Pigs can fly over the moon. Professors locally are the most stingy and thrifty professionals in SIngapore we know.

    ronaldo Says:

    April 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
    Orbit:

    The reason why my pay is such because i can contribute back much more value than the amount they pay me. And also because I can genearte back so much new business. Most importantly, I am good enough.

    These are the reasons. All my friends I hang out with all earns S$9K & above, and some are earning 12K above… and we are all around 27 years to max 31 years old..

    I am not boasting, just stating the fact..

    cheers!

    ronaldo Says:

    April 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
    Oh you guys can consider us high flyers if u like..

    but i consider us ordinary..

    ronaldo Says:

    April 13th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
    lawyerguy, may i ask how old are you?

    ronaldo Says:

    April 18th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
    WMF :
    “Someone who hits good profits typically gets back more than 10-20k per month.

    This is not true generally. Recruitment consultants dont even smell S$7K and above in gross. Mind you.. they cnt even get S$7K and above.. They are usually entry level or admin/data administration jobs they do.

    Iam not disrespecting such professions, but the ugly truth is such.

    Ron

    ronaldo Says:
    April 27th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    If people thinks I’m good, I have no problem with that. If people wants to worship me, I’m fine with that too.

    David Seah, if you think I’m GOD and worships me like a GOD, I have no problem with that too.

    Cheerios

    ronaldo Says:

    May 6th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
    Hey Question,

    Pls read up on the industry specs before you ask silly retard questions. Modeling industry and media advertising industry are totally different. Dont ask me those questions, go ask someone in that trade.

    It’s like me asking a fishmonger selling fish in a wet market, how much it costs to learn fly fishing or deep sea fishing from him.

    You get my point??

    ronaldo Says:

    May 21st, 2008 at 10:04 pm
    Don’t get me wrong I have no intentions to ” blast” anyone here and I have definitely didn’t put anyone down on purpose. I have no malice here but I am stating my truth. If no one believes me, so be it. If people believes me, I also don’t really care too. Just as long as my pay check reaches my bank account every month end , I am happy becos I can carry on my spendings and savings.

    I didn’t say my salary in excess of 12K is great. I just felt its fairly sizable. David, there are definitely merits for being corporate jet pilot as maybe you can get a fatter paycheck. But as the rewards are good, you have a heavy risks too. You can fly and soar the skies like a bird but you can crash like there’s no tomorrow too.

    Btw I don’t have to work late nights as you might have suggested. I usually knock off as I fancy normally 5-6ish pm. Though I am in media, but I control my time well and delegate things FYA properly. More importantly, i make the final decisions.

    Good luck to flying the skies, just make sure you don’t crash

    Cheers!
    Ron

    ronaldo Says:

    May 21st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
    witty -

    industrial designers dont fall in media agencies, they should be more in creative or interative design agencies. Being in pure creative/interactive agency is entirely different from media planning agency. Sorry i’m not sure about ID.

    As for being headhunted, you can maybe direct your question to David Seah. He’s a corporate jet pilot and making a cool high 6 figures annual income is all he care. Considering him being a pilot, he have to be guaranteed a higher package than me, though I also make a 6 figures annual income. But i think 6 figures annual income is no big shit.

    Ron

    ronaldo Says:

    May 26th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
    BTW if i tell you his monthly income of my friend who owns the yacht is from SGD$150,000 A MONTH being a life planner at Great Eastern and all this income is excluding his revenue from yachts and ships yet. Do you believe? Haha..

    I can ask him to show you his bank account David Seah. So stop boasting about yourself earning $3 mill in 3 years. You are not that fantastic at your age of 30s.

    Im tired of your whining and bitching. Believe it or not up to you. My pocket is full of cash is all i know. I only own 2 credit cards but the rest of my wallet is bulging with cash.

    ronaldo Says:

    June 5th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
    I dont really care what other people think of me nor does most of my other pals..

    I am fairly contented with my benefits, pay etc and I think I am reasonable enough. If any of you think I am a jerk etc, most probably you are less paid/ lowly paid and lack of ambition in life.

    Frankly, i dont give a damn really what other people think of me.. as long as I think I am good enough is what matters most to me..

    At 28 and getting 12k and I can get what i need and desire in life is the only thing that truly matters to me.

    Cheerios!

    ronaldo Says:

    June 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
    Hi Jin,

    if you want to know more, i can get you in touch with my pal who is in Great Eastern. He makes at least 4 times more than me.

    Thanks!
    Ron

    ronaldo Says:

    June 15th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
    lucky guy, nice to know you earned very high package when you were late twenties. an achievement no doubt.

    W – great to know you are that “rich”.. cheers to you.. but you dont own anyone.. much less me.. becos though i have a cap to my basic but my bonuses and commissions are uncapped as are my benefits.. and i own my time and i dont report to no one in my company becos i have total flexibility.. good luck to ur studies, its no use studying very much becos qualifications alone dont determine how much you will earn.. for your info i have double masters degree and first class honors degree.. but my salary is not purely determined by that but more importantly my performance.. so no matter what you are studying now.. its no big deal to me.

    -Thanks for your congrats Chinaman.. im fairly happy with my benefits etc now..

    A summary to a guy who ask, contradicts himself and is showing off :)


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  274. Howcome Says:

    Windwaver, just curious–you spent so much time for going through ronaldo’s posts and even looking for contradictions etc. for what ah?


  275. DP Says:

    To windwaver, Howcome is right to say that we’ve all fallen into the trap of wasting too much time on this hopeless Ronaldo fella. Just to sum up before we close this last bit on him la..

    From what you see, we are dealing with a highly insecure guy who keeps asking for reassurances of his ‘newfound wealth’ but the irony is that the more he boasts, the more people look down on him. He’s found himself many more detractors than supporters (hardly any for the matter):)

    It is also futile to talk any sense to an irrational and incoherent person, who can’t even figure out if he’s 27 or 28. If somebody wants to argue with you that the sun sets in the east, what can you do? [I remember a quote from someone- if you do not know, I can teach you, if you are stupid, I can't help you. Obviously, our friend here belongs to the latter].

    Whatever it is, there’s no business of cursing about others’ industries and their job hazards. If the airline industry were to fail, all the rest of us would not be any much better, and I’m very certain the media sales business would be affected in a big way too.

    And a practical note, S’pore is a very small market and the word gets around. There’s a chance somebody would find out who he is and…good luck


  276. Ronaldo Says:

    windwaver, DP and david seah, all of you are just cheap thrills.. scratching your imaginations for all the fun, laughter peace and joy in the world..


  277. Jayeeta Says:

    I am a Sun Certified Java/J2EE Developer from India having total 3 yrs of experience. I have been approached for a permanent job in an IT firm in Singapore. Can you please guide me as to how much can I expect as my annual salary in SG$ ? Can I get any edge in salary being a certified professional ?


  278. Do Trong Duong Says:

    I am construction Engineer from Viet Nam having total 8 years of experience. I have approached for a permanent job in a construction Engineer in Singapore. Can you please guide me how much can I expect as my annual salary in SGD?


  279. Builder Says:

    I am a 34 year old American consultant with a doctorate. I am negotiating a position in SG but have no idea what I should be asking for. I have done a great deal of research but am still nervous. The pay is negotiated in $U.S. but is to be paid in SG currency. From what I gather, it is a good annual salary $150K U.S. or $195K SG (16,250 monthly)But they keep asking is that “all inclusive.” What else should I be considering or asking for? What else could be “inclusive”? Also, would this allow me to live comfortably in a nice area in SG?


  280. Allowances Says:

    @Builder, ask for housing allowance, car allowance and the like. Without knowing your experience, I can only say your offer is fair. Assuming you’re coming alone, you’ll be comfortable but not extravagant. Nice area – possible.


  281. Howcome Says:

    @Jayeeta: my guess would be around 50k, although there will be variations depending on how good you are, and what company you’re joining.


  282. anonymous Says:

    Builder – you should check what “all inclusive” really means, the most important thing being whether they are willing to pay your US tax. Generally, the rule of the thumb is that if they are paying you in SGD and you are paying Singapore taxes, they should cover your US tax.

    Remember there is no tax treaty between Singapore and the US, so you still have to pay taxes to Uncle Sam for income earned above US$82K.


  283. builder Says:

    Thanks for the replies. I was not aware that I would have to pay any U.S Income tax at all. I am going to look further into that. They said no car or housing expenses. I though $150K would go far but guess not. Anything else? I already mentioned airfare home once a year.


  284. Lex Says:

    builder,

    US 150k will indeed go far in Sgp. However what you are probably being asked by the Sg employers is what you expect in terms of expat terms. Typically as a US expat you would get a housing allowance; car allowance; schooling allowance for your kids at the Singapore american school; annual home leave with air travel expenses covered for you and your family; tax equalization to ensure that you do not suffer double taxation etc. You should ask to see a detailed package showing all expat benefits you will receive after which you can get back to them and let them know if anything else needs to be included.


  285. Howcome Says:

    @Builder, remember that “how far you go” is really a subjective thing.
    To my American and British friends, paying 3k/month for rental is considered “cheap”, even when that is almost 40% of their monthly income. To them, afterwork drinks and 3-digit dinners are de rigueur.
    For me, the most expensive I’ve ever paid on rental is about 1k. My fancy meals are around 80-90 for 2. So obviously for me, 150k will go A LOT farther than for my American friends.


  286. builder Says:

    Apparently, it’s not an expat package and they said none of those things are included. Years ago,I paid $2k in NYC for an appartment and expected to pay about the same in singapore but seems like a small apartment in a “cool” neighborhood is going to cost $4,000 SG. Starting to consider staying in the U.S.


  287. dun come Says:

    Dude, singapore is ahead of new york in terms of standard of living. You can check that on the web any time.

    If 4k is expensive, please stay in the US.


  288. builder Says:

    Not here to argue which city is better. That’s kind of queer. Anyway, this is why I am so confused. I have one person saying $1K gets you an Ok apartment and another one calling me “dude” and saying $4K is not enough. What does get decent apartment near a “cool are of towm?” Does anyone reading this make approximately $150 U.S. anually, which is I think approximately $16 SG/monthly? If so please let me know what your lifestyle is like. Type/quality of apartment, neighborhood(cool or not), walk to subway? Able to go out and have fun and eat at decent restraunts here and there? Thanks.


  289. anonymous Says:

    Builder – $1k SGD will NOT get you an apartment in a “cool” area. That price range most definitely means decrepit public housing in a suburban area (i.e. Jersey or the Bronx). If you want the equivalent of a 1br/studio in Manhattan, $4k SGD sounds about right for a place in the city center district.


  290. Howcome Says:

    Builder, that’s the thing that I’m trying to tell you. Your expectations (not stereotyping here, just based on what I’ve seen from my American friends) of a “decent” lifestyle, “cool” area of town, “have fun”, “decent restaurants” can be COMPLETELY different from someone else’s expectations, even if that person makes around what you’ll be making here.
    So you have to be more specific than that.
    My social circles make around what you are making. Our lifestyles are sometimes radically different from one another. I don’t own a car, for instance. My friend who doesn’t earn even half of my income, just bought himself a car. To him, he EXPECTS to have a car. I don’t.
    So you have to be more specific to get any useful response.


  291. Poor Man Says:

    To David and Ronald,

    I am a poor man with regular paychecks every month. It just tickles me how you guys could bicker over who’s more right and who’s less of a wrong over so long. I couldn’t read on after a few clip you guys posted. But i did notice as i scrolled down the list briefly i still noticed both names appearing over a period of time.

    Ronald, Ronaldo or whatever, it’s nice to have you contributing to the society.

    David, I am an airline pilot myself, and thanks for making the skies a safe place to be at.

    At the end of the day, it’s just the internet right? everyone can be anyone they wish to be. Seriously, who cares?


  292. Alex Says:

    Hi Can anyone tell me what is the expected salary for a senior consultant/ manager at PWC or E&Y with around 4 years post qualification experience?


  293. racingsoldier Says:

    hi all!

    im in the u.s. army and ready to got to school but i dont know what i can get myself into. im 18 yrs old about to be 19, but i dont want to waste my school for a 3.5k a month job bc if u got school y not do the max? could someone lead me in the rite direction? im looking for a office job maybe even something a long the lines of designing but im not good at math, but i got an imagination….. plz someone help me


  294. Howcome Says:

    Poor Man, you’re an airline pilot and you call yourself a “poor man with regular paychecks every month”? You forgot to turn off the sarcasm button, didn’t you?


  295. dude luv Says:

    racing soldier if you’d like to know what are your suitable careers just gimme your date of birth no catch


  296. Henry Says:

    Hey ronaldo,

    shut up.


  297. Ronaldo Says:

    Sorry guys.. going by my 3 months bonus, my annual package is 180K, I.E. 15K a month thou my net pay per mth = 12K.

    Not being a snob here but fact of the matter is im only 27 years old. Hey i am going for massage now. my day has ended now at 4.15pm


  298. dude luv Says:

    Hey Ronaldo dude claiming to earn >$12k per mth is one thing but can u sustain it and have wealth – investments, properties, assets etc til the day u die? Gimme your date of birth and I can tell for sure are you the MAN u claimed to be!

    Dude Luv


  299. Howcome Says:

    Man, what’s up with this asking for birth date thing? You some kind of shifu or something?


  300. Tan May Yen Jan Says:

    Hi Ronaldo, I am totally impressed. Please try to find an online job for a mother of two who can hardly make ends meet with the amount her husband gives her per month.


  301. Ronaldo Says:

    Do i look like a recruitment consultant to you?


  302. Dude Luv Says:

    Yo Howcome im a modern master but pleaze dun call me that. This numerology is recognized by Malaysia’s oldest U as Human Behavioral Science. Accuracy is abt 90%. We can see a lot of behavioral traits n characteristics of anyone. not fortune telling n not based on religion. Game to try?


  303. Ronaldinho Says:

    I think ronaldo is just a kid (school boy) trying to stir things up.. Do u have to keep repeating how much u earn?


  304. Ronaldinho Says:

    Ronaldo Says:

    August 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
    Sorry guys.. going by my 3 months bonus, my annual package is 180K, I.E. 15K a month thou my net pay per mth = 12K.

    Not being a snob here but fact of the matter is im only 27 years old. Hey i am going for massage now. my day has ended now at 4.15pm

    …..stop making up stories. Day ended at 4.15pm? ..u mean your tuition class?


  305. Howcome Says:

    @Dude Luv: sure! Love this stuff. July 17, 1968. So–what have you got?


  306. Sumit Says:

    Hey Guys,
    I have been offered 4200 S$ per month for a s-w profile in singapore. I have around 3.6 years of exp from a very reputed firm in India. Do you think this is a competetive offer and is ok to survive with my wife in singapore in an area around Ang Mo Kio Street.

    Thanks


  307. Dude Luv Says:

    Howcome i can’t give u full analysis for privacy reason n space. Very partial – u blive strongly in ur own principle, u will travel cos of wrk. Lots of obstacles in life. Ur $ come in a roller coaster manner. U should be very successful by age 30. Always like to be different and like 2 challenge the norm. Gimme ur email if u want more.

    Cheers,
    Dude Luv


  308. Dude Luv Says:

    Howcome one more thing – you’ll have properties b4 ur final breath but having properties may not mean having money!

    Cheers, Dud Luv


  309. Howcome Says:

    @Dude Luv: That’s amazing. I’m curious. How can you say all that about me just by knowing a date?
    How would you analyze Yang Xinhai, one of the worst China’s serial killers in history? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_X...)
    Yang Xinhai was born on July 17, 1968.


  310. Sumit Says:

    Hey,
    Any answers to my question above… ??
    Pls help.

    Thanks


  311. Ronaldo Says:

    hi Dude Luv:whats up..

    Lets play ur numerology game. 27 dec 1980

    game on. i give u my agency name where i work too .. Starcom MediaVest Group (SMG) i am head of the strategic media department; i.e. Media Director

    :)


  312. Ronaldo Says:

    hey Sumit, my thoughts to you out loud, to me 12K is even hard to survive monthly considering my spending. 4200 S$ per month is hardly considerable for me.


  313. Howcome Says:

    Hi Sumit, for a 3+ yrs of experience that is OK. Not fantastic, but OK. Note that the rent has increased in Singapore lately. If you’re thinking of renting a whole house with your wife, almost half of your salary can go to paying rent every month.


  314. Sumit Says:

    Thanks gys….
    do we get 1 BHK houses easily there in Singapore… I mean is there any chance of cutting the cost spent on a big 2 BHK appartment?

    And can you gys suggest some good sites for IT job search in Singapore?


  315. Ronaldo Says:

    hmm im still waiting.. dude luv ..


  316. Howcome Says:

    What is BHK, Sumit?


  317. Sumit Says:

    BHK as in Bedroom , Hall, Kitchen. 1 BHK are the appartments which have single bedroom and so considered to be cheap. So do we have such houses in Singapore.


  318. Howcome Says:

    You can Google “rent in singapore”, should be quite helpful…


  319. Dude Luv Says:

    Howcome r u serious abt ur d.o.b. that coincide with the alleged serial killer? FYI most ppl born in 1968/86 have the number on their mother’s side 15 that mean end up in prison. But 3 factors 2 consider. 1. Family upbringing 2. Political/social environment 3. Choice of partner.
    I won’t waste my time on doing a free analysis for other people like the rich and famous, stars, pro athletes, etc. U can buy it frm me if ur keen.
    Cheers, Dude Luv


  320. Dude Luv Says:

    Ronaldo you have eye for investment, hasty with $ but will lead to success. Note that u will be very successful around late 30s to 40 onward. If ur in biz it will be short term basis. Always go round in circle searching for the rite biz. Career minded. High chances for overseas traveling. U have a traveling life, eg may need to travel a distance frm home to office or overseas. Stressful but able to find ways to move on. Probably marry someone younger/older than u. Possibly a spouse of another race/country. U have properties before ur final breath.
    Cheers, Dude Luv


  321. Howcome Says:

    @Dude Luv: I’m not asking you to do free analysis, so cool. I’m learning this stuff in hope to make money too, like what you’re trying to do here.

    So far I think it’s quite easy to do. Just mention some generalities that is quite likely to happen, like “you have properties before your final breath” and then say “of course depends on family upbringing, environment, and choice of partner”.

    Other useful generalities I’ve spotted so far:
    (1) likely successful in the 30s or 40s (yeah, most successful people are rising during this age range)
    (2) probably marry someone younger/older than you (well we’re completely covered here–obviously a person’s either younger or older. For western countries I’d go like, “someone younger/older of the same/different sex than you” just to be safe.)

    I’m collecting these things. I wanna do like what you’re doing. Cool stuff man. This cold reading skill is fun. Good for parties too. Thanks.

    I can think of a few more things like: “Sometimes you feel stressed but when you reach deep into yourself you can find the strength to overcome adversity”, etc. etc. Love this stuff, people eat that up.


  322. Dude Luv Says:

    Howcome ur life partner is probably younger/older to u 6 yrs or more. If i can go into exact age i’ll be god. U ought to be successful by age 30 as ur root number is 3. NOT every1 can be successful (not just in monetary term) it encompasses children + degree as well. I have x-ref with western human traits & charateristics as well. I may need ur time/country of birth 2 be more precise but i won’t do so as I’ve said its only basic. By now u should realize tat ur also charismatic if ur d.o.b. is correct as stated. My analysis accuracy is as high as 95% based on unsolicited testimonials.
    Cheers, Dude Luv


  323. Ronaldo Says:

    thanks Dude Luv


  324. Dude Luv Says:

    Ronaldo no problem bro.

    Cheers, Dude Luv


  325. Joey Says:

    Am i underpaid? i am paid $5k range gross, for less than 3 yrs working experience, just pass degree, now a treasury analyst…shold i ask for more as felt that my boss can pay up to more than $6k range for this post..


  326. Joey Says:

    by e way age may be a factor…i am 25…lacking in experience….but i would like a jump from my current 5k range


  327. To Joey Says:

    Whether you’re underpaid is subjective. Who do you want to compare with? Have you tried this tool:
    http://www.salary.sg/2008/compare-y...
    If you compare yourself against the 25-29 age group, you’re already in the top 5.3%.
    I’m not sure if you’re just another Ronaldo, but I’ll give you benefit of doubt.


  328. Ronaldo Says:

    Dude Luv, i don’t think you’ll earn as much as me, but you’re ok.
    To Joey… u r seriously underpaid! U are way too poor man, good luck to you
    Cheers


  329. Dude Luv Says:

    Ronaldo don’t be too arrogant. My personal net worth is within the top 5% high income earner. I will retire before age 45 that’s on target. Let my money work and I won’t be working for anyone dude. I already have passive income frm my 2 properties so I don’t see why I’m trailing behind you or even on par. You’ve long long way to go while I bask in glory!


  330. Ronaldo Says:

    Please don’t show off. If you are rich, then be it
    Btw, what i earn in a year is enough to last a lifetime to others….


  331. Ronaldo Says:

    wow someone imitating me in my last 2 ‘comments’.. i don’t recall writing these ..

    imitation is the best form of Adulation


  332. Dude Luv Says:

    Ronaldo be a man if u had ‘look down’ on others. If we think we are successful there are others who are more successful than us. If u care to observe there seems to be many people who are jealous of u cos of ur high income claims. Ur good point is ur frank to ‘motivate’ others to do well but not everyone is able to realise their full potential.


  333. Ronaldo's dad Says:

    Yo kid ronaldo, u are such a disgrace! Go hide at some other place… Be a man please and stop whinning and showing off!


  334. mona Says:

    how much salary does a Singapore PR will have with a 2 years experience in a design company (architectural or interior design), in singapore??

    thanks..


  335. 新加坡100高薪职业 — 理财王-独立投资者 Says:

    [...] This is the 2008 edition of my annual list of the top 100 jobs in terms of pay (see last year’s edition). [...]


  336. T Rajagopal Says:

    When one leaves this Earth one is not remembered for the wealth accumulated nor for the heights up the corporate ladder but for the lives one has touched.

    In all 60 yearsof my life I have seen ups and downs – from top to bottom. Remember life has many lessons for us all but nothing beats a simple life touching others less fortunate bacause only good and lasting memories stays – you cannot take wealth and position with you but your compassion and kindness and lifting others less fortunate are the only ways you are remembered. History tells us that and we learn.

    So stop comparing salaries and live life the way it should be – touching lives.

    To one and all my best wishes for a fuitful and meaningful career and live touching others.

    T Rajagopal
    5th September 2008


  337. 5m10y Says:

    Again the belief that kindness and having positive impact on others are somehow mutually exclusive with pursuing wealth.

    I believe that pursuing wealth and career is not mutually exclusive with being a decent human being who’s kind and has positive impact to other people around him/her.

    After all, you can only help those who are in the need if you have enough in the first place.


  338. Davis Says:

    hi!all, do anybody have idea about entry level salary of Procurement engineer?
    Let me know i am on the verge of jumping from my Design engineer job to procurement engineer job.
    Thanks in advance


  339. Remy Says:

    Yoz everyone! does anybody have any idea about the structure of logistic/ supply chain career path?
    And if i were to further my studies in logistics ? what universities will you guys recommend ? PLEASE HELP! thanks


  340. Why Says:

    Hi, I am in the engineering.manufacturing sector, 28yrs, and my salvation comes from working overseas. Armed only with a dip. in electronics…the most i could gather in Singapore was about S$3.2k/mth, but currently, i am working for a HK firm and they pay S$7K/mth…if anyone is looking for exponential pay growth..maybe working overseas is the answer…


  341. Christine Says:

    Ronaldo, just curious… what is your total annual package, including all your perks?


  342. did anyone else notice? Says:

    …that the DOBs do not match. I know I shouldn’t be wasting time but I couldn’t resist…

    Ronaldo Says:

    July 4th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    DP – “Some local university fresh grads earn more than him. What’s there for him to brag aloud???”

    What you are saying is Nonsensical and rubbish. Let’s just say by a scratch of our imagination, there are indeed a handful of fresh graduates getting more than me. i.e. BASIC > 12K. The amount in total is just 12K with a couple of bonuses at year end and some petty allowances. Add to that being new in the company, they must work hard and continously proved their worth for at least few months to a year.

    Now back to me. My basic is 12K. Add to this my allowance to entertain my clients/accounts/new business is uncapped and unlimited. Add to that I have a $200 phone allowance on my own personal mobile phone + a black berry phone with unlimited access to make calls outgoing + commission which is on average $2K per month with new business + corporate card to entertain my clients + totally flexible working environment here i can choose to lunch for 2 to 3 hours in between if i want to + i can leave office anytime after 4-5 pm if i am tired or if i feel like leaving office.

    Compare all this to the new fresh uni grad. I dont feel at all envious. I am born in the year 1981 Dec, so techincally I am stil not even 28 years old or 27 yet.

    Ronaldo Says:
    August 20th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    hi Dude Luv:whats up..

    Lets play ur numerology game. 27 dec 1980

    ….typo? maybe? but the numbers ’1′ and ’0′ are not really side by side on a keyboard…i’m just saying…

    anyway dude luv: here’s mine – 28/07/1982


  343. everbody noticed Says:

    ..next year he’ll be born in 1982.. Technically he will never grow old.
    …and don’t forget that ronaldo dude earns $12K basic every month (excluding all his bullshit commisions and his ‘pathetic’ $200 hp allowance) !!!!


  344. Dude Luv Says:

    Yo Ronaldo. Dude Luv has officially retired from the rat race. I’m now a passive investor with lots of free time to focus on my hobbies like rearing fishes, surfing the net, spending quality time with my kids, etc. To all who are still working regardless of your position and salary and perks, I wish you all good luck. I won’t be visiting this site again, ever! Cheers, Dude Luv.


  345. sreejith Says:

    now im working in middle east No one retail company as Matirial mgt cuslt.i have 4 years exp.now im doing a pg diploma in supply chain mgt.after i complete this cource i would like to go singapore for a better job.wat u concered with future retail and supply chain oppertunities in singapore.


  346. veerapan Says:

    to sreejith,

    learn to piece a decent sentence in english before even thinking of coming here.


  347. everbody noticed Says:

    ronaldo… keeping quiet?


  348. sreejith2 Says:

    to my dear veerapan,

    Thanks 4 ur valuable advice…… keep it up


  349. everbody noticed Says:

    Ronaldo! where are u??


  350. 5m10y Says:

    That’s awesome Dude Luv. You rock!


  351. last hope Says:

    hi all, while doing some research for an interview tomorrow, i chanced upon this site. Im 34 years old,have been through hell & back, & then back to hell again. $ is very important in life, its not everything, but especially in spore, it is too important.(contradictory?). My motive is to just say that everyone, just try your best in everything & work hard. If your efforts dont get recognised, you will eventually figure out what needs to be changed. Gradually, things will fall into place.

    Whatever it is, always remember to be thankful for what you have. This year, i went downhill again. I lost my job, & my wife left me after having an affair. My son was taken away from my home, which i had to sell off, & still no sales proceeds to enjoy. No income for months, crashed at relatives’ homes. Lost “fake” friends & learnt a lot more about life,..again.

    I worked hard & tried to be a good husband, father, employee & a good friend. BUT life has its own plans for everyone.

    Im just thankful, I still have positive hopes. I still have my health & some years of “youth”. I worked my way up without much education, from dishwasher to security guard, to waiter,to sales assistant, to sales manager, to learn the ropes to be a good Business Development Manager. And most recently a Senior position. Then, in a flash, all was taken away from me. Now im broke but i have my brains & health still.

    So it all can start afresh, no matter who says what. Tomorrow’s interview is for a Managerial Position, possibly just paying $4K, but it huge to me, at this point. From there, I will ensure, I give my all, & im sure I will be recognised again. Truth be told, I will accept a $2K job as a junior executive if they offered me. All I know is they will be lucky to hie me, a capable worker, who will work his butt off, to grow again in this mean world.

    When one area gets back on track, the other good things in life will start to fall in place, gradually, hopefully.

    Bottomline, i havent given up yet. so neither should anyone else. Good luck those after big paychecks, but remember, $ is not everything…


  352. Shanghai Returnee Says:

    Hi Last Hope, I share your sentiments deeply.
    Hi All, money is not really everything but we should try to meet our basic needs, and some of us may need that extra to feed our ageing parents.

    I quitted my 10k.mth job from Shanghai as an Engineer and chose to return Singapore. I was all alone in Shanghai all these while with my wife and children back home. While i thrive on my career in Shanghai, I couldn’t forgive myself for selfishly leaving my family back home.

    I decided to return last month and had a huge salary paycut just to be with them. Most of us just need to realise in our life, that certain events will never return if you miss them this round. To me, my family is the most important link in my life.

    At the moment, I am pursuing my career in the medical industry related to providing pre-hospital and medical care to patients with terminal illness. Although I know that i will never get the same kind of perks that i used to had in Shanghai, I felt I a different kind of satisfaction in my present career and my family.

    If we chooses to look at our pay as a tool to satisfy our materialisitc means, we will be stuck with it and soon to come, you will know, you have lost something else which could be more important to your life.

    SRE


  353. 5m10y Says:

    “Last hope”, all my best wishes to you. I’m sure with your never give up attitude soon you’ll be at the top again.


  354. AL Says:

    Last hope: Feel for you mate. You don’t need insincere and unloving people in your life. Singapore is really a mean place. If I were you, I would probably go overseas if possible and start afresh. Anyway, you’ve got nothing to lose. I recommend Down Under as a good place. (Don’t worry ppl telling you about racism, it’s only like 5% of the time). Be there for ages myself, and I love it. People are always willing to give you a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th chance (Why do you think they take in refugees from Middle East and Vietnam?). Plus there’s a MINIMUM wage. Yes there right, a minimum wage. If you are willing to work hard there, survival is not an issue.

    Last hope: Life is so much more than this little Red Dot (actually the dot on the atlas is bigger than the land itself). It’s last hope here, but plentiful of hope elsewhere. The world is SO BIG, why stay in this little congested arena?

    Cheers mate, all the best!


  355. last hope Says:

    Hi guys, thks for the encouragement & kind words. I know thr r still good people around & good things that can overcome all the bad that has happened.

    I am now getting ready for my interview. I have been to quite a lot of interviews this year. Believe it or not, sometimes i even make it to the 2nd or even 3rd interviews & end up not getting a job!

    Al, thks for the migration advice. Yes, i’ve always thought about migration. In fact my parents are in Texas USA, & i’ve tried there for a while, & actually loved it. And i actually lived in Sydney too for 3years, during my studies. And my siblings are there. They evetually stayed on & are now citizens there. Lovely place, not as fast paced & they are all earning big & stress free, going back at 5pm everyday. (BUT HUGE TAX! haha)..

    BUT i also realised Singapore still has its good, so I wont give up yet. Especially since my son is here, & if i dont see him at least once every 2 weeks, i suffer too much inside. So my 5year old son is the main reason, why i’m alive now & still struggling in spore.

    ok.I better get ready for my interview now..dont want to be late!

    thanks again guys.

    Once, i was shortlisted over 300 candidates for a certain position. I was in the final 3 left..but alas, there was only 1 position to be filled & i lost it in the end..oh well..that made me shattered, but hey, thats life..i just tell myself, its ok.


  356. adiemuso Says:

    last hope,

    good luck! i believe you will make it as long as you still have the fire within.

    it is only through such experiences can one learn to be humble and not be overly complacent about one’s current good fortune. riches can come and go, just like that. besides how many of us have really lived the high life to behave like one. sometimes, its really perplexing to see average doe and joe, like you and me, in their little world.


  357. DL Says:

    One should have the ‘immigrant mentality’ in order to be able to adapt, survive and thrive in foreign land. The desire for success, determination and hunger for success. Most of all Asian immigrants possessed these qualities and have become successful. Good example are Chinese and Indians migrating to South East Asia, Down Under, Europe and USA. Do, dare and dream.


  358. last hope Says:

    Hi again guys,
    Thanks further for the well-wishes. I had a great interview session. 1stly I was pleasantly surprised that the COO herself called me up. I googled her name & discovered she is a very capable power-career woman. I was so nervous,but within 5mins, she revealed that she was just another friendly human. So I could express myself freely, & it went very well!

    She immediately implied that she wanted to recruit me for the managerial position. She was in charge, but for the sake of the selection process, she will wait till end of week, & also when the MD(who’s signing the paycheck) returns from overseas, to meet me to get final confirmation.

    I feel really good & very positive. Everyone around me looks beautiful now suddenly. Hopefully I get this job. They are going to be so lucky because i’m bringing with me not just my talent & experience, but great work ethics & total effort on my part.

    A bonus is they will pay me much more than I expected!

    But even if by some sheer bad luck, the MD doesnt approve of me, i know i will be fine, eventually.
    (BUT MY GOD…HOW I WANT THIS JOB SO BAD!!!)well, i hope by this time next week, i will be finally back in the game, moving upwards! The game of life!


  359. DL Says:

    last hope, I myself have worst experiences. Getting lower positions, lower pay even from GLCs despite having the right education and with sufficient experiences. There are always people who are much more worst than us so perseverance, never say die attitude and determination will land you your dream job. Always have an exit plan just in case if things don’t work out your way. Good luck.


  360. 5m10y Says:

    last hope, I’m actually excited to hear that! :-) Please keep us posted, would love to hear that you get that job.

    All the best!!!


  361. last hope Says:

    well, the COO called me as she said she would, asking me to drop by on Monday afternoon. I am the most nervous ever! This is a job which i feel so suited for as well, as for many other reasons. This job wil re-start my new life, but i know I cannot be too hopeful, I also have to prepare for the worst.

    I have 3days to prepare myself. Just today alone, I have printed about 20pages to learn about the industry, products & company further.

    Now its all about the MD liking me & finding me suitable.

    I really need & want this job. This will be for my son, & even my ex, who actually needs more financial support from me. Plus I truly believe I will grow with this company.

    Just an update for those who posted their well-wishes. thks guys…


  362. 5m10y Says:

    Have an efficient and effective weekend preparing, last hope :-)


  363. AL Says:

    All the best, last hope. :)


  364. adiemuso Says:

    best!


  365. Ronaldo Says:

    who asked??


  366. everbody noticed Says:

    Ronaldo Says:

    July 4th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    DP – “Some local university fresh grads earn more than him. What’s there for him to brag aloud???”

    What you are saying is Nonsensical and rubbish. Let’s just say by a scratch of our imagination, there are indeed a handful of fresh graduates getting more than me. i.e. BASIC > 12K. The amount in total is just 12K with a couple of bonuses at year end and some petty allowances. Add to that being new in the company, they must work hard and continously proved their worth for at least few months to a year.

    Now back to me. My basic is 12K. Add to this my allowance to entertain my clients/accounts/new business is uncapped and unlimited. Add to that I have a $200 phone allowance on my own personal mobile phone + a black berry phone with unlimited access to make calls outgoing + commission which is on average $2K per month with new business + corporate card to entertain my clients + totally flexible working environment here i can choose to lunch for 2 to 3 hours in between if i want to + i can leave office anytime after 4-5 pm if i am tired or if i feel like leaving office.

    Compare all this to the new fresh uni grad. I dont feel at all envious. I am born in the year 1981 Dec, so techincally I am stil not even 28 years old or 27 yet.

    Ronaldo Says:
    August 20th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    hi Dude Luv:whats up..

    Lets play ur numerology game. 27 dec 1980

    …. can’t decide which year u were born???


  367. last hope Says:

    HI TO EVERYONE! just a little update to those wishing me well..

    My Interview with the COO & MD went very well yesterday. BUT they did say they will call me by this week for the news if I get the job or not! I had done all I could, gave my best during the interview, did all research & convinced them my capabilities & experience & most of all my work ethics & enthusiasm.

    Well, I just got the call. & I GOT THE JOB!!!!! will sign & start work on Monday! Thank god.. i’m going to cherish the job & opportunity so much. They are going to be so lucky..

    well, i am not going to use this “last hope” nick anymore..from now, on, it will be “new hope”..

    Just a word to all out there, please cherish what u have in life, it can all go away in a split second.cherish your family, health, & job. remember $ is very important but not the only thing. when things crumble, then it will be too late for regrets.

    take care everyone, & thank you for all your well wishes. I have had a rough life, but at 34, i am ready to rebuild it. The good job & pay is going to help me no doubt, but still needs to be supported by hard work & matured thinking.

    regards…


  368. adiemuso Says:

    all the best to you! good luck!


  369. AL Says:

    Good to hear that. Congrats! all the best


  370. middle hope Says:

    Hey New Hope,

    care to share what your job scope covers and how much is your package?

    by the way congrats on getting the job :)


  371. last hope Says:

    Thks..its a Sales Manager position(FMCG),requiring a lot of travelling. $4500 before commission, & lots more benefits which was just briefly described to me over the phone. I’ll know more details when i sign tomorrow. There’s also over-riding commission from Team’s sales as its a manager position . After probation, probable increment.

    Im just thankful to get the job, as I knew there were a few really formidable candidates for the position. I truly believe it was my personality that secured me the job. good luck to the ones who missed out on this chance(because of me!) & to all of you jobseekers out there!keep persevering!


  372. ronaldo Says:

    Your pay is nothing. I got 12k when i started out…

    Anyway.. cheerios to u


  373. 5m10y Says:

    NEW hope!! Congratulations! I’m so happy to hear that you got the job you wanted. All the very best to you–I’m sure your rise to the top is not far ahead!


  374. mama Says:

    Ronaldo,

    Your pay is nothing compared to mine.
    I got 24k when i started out.


  375. mama Says:

    Ronaldo,
    One more thing…i am rich now and have a very happy family. Want to ask if you have a family? and if you have, do you have problems at home?


  376. DL Says:

    A man is not complete without a happy family and financial freedom. To be able to live the life he desires. That’s life. Not about boasting how much he can make now for there is no job security now! Ronaldo when we think we are well off there are lots of others who are much better off than us. But i’m impressed that you are a high income earner at your age. Be thankful, not boastful.


  377. last hope Says:

    well..my soon to be ex wife brought me out for some beer..she was so happy for me…because she knew what i went through the past few months..

    to those who earn a lot..be very thankful, & try to cherish that..because the average singaporean is not that lucky…trust me..

    & worst, $ cannot buy everything..like health..& family bliss…

    for me.the great pattern in my life is…just like how bad luck comes in big batches..so does good luck…now my relationship with wife is good…may even try to resolve matters..who knows?…

    & regarding salary..4500 basic..im more than contented..& given the commission..i know i will earn more…but thats not what matters most…really..it will take a “mishap” to actually understand that…


  378. NEW hope Says:

    hehe..this comment is just to emphasise my new nickname..”NEW HOPE”


  379. did anyone else notice? Says:

    first and foremost: New Hope – congrats. i am sure you will do well in the future.

    now, more investigative work….

    how can one start out with 12k, when he was actually making 9.5k basic before???

    worse…if one really was making 12k, why on earth would one ask whether any other figures below that are ‘market value’???

    ronaldo Says:

    January 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am
    Media Director paid about S$6k ?

    ronaldo Says:

    February 13th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
    Hi David Seah & Admin,

    I just joined as Media Director and i am 28 years old. My experience is in media, advertising & marketing. I was actually headhunted for this position.

    My pay is S$9,500 BASIC ,excluding entertainment, transport, handphone etc other allowances that is claimable.

    ronaldo Says:

    October 14th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    Your pay is nothing. I got 12k when i started out…

    Anyway.. cheerios to u


  380. 5m10y Says:

    You must be new here… the regular visitors all ignore him already :-P


  381. mama Says:

    Hi Ronaldo, i dun want to ignore you. I am your friend and you need help and i want to help you. Please post some evidence.


  382. Ronaldo Says:

    Oh my.. somebody else impersonated me again.. imitation is the best form of compliment..

    the remark saying i earn 12k when i started out is made by my fan or an admirer i think..


  383. fan Says:

    none can beat a mega church pastor wage per month.

    a rock solid $$$$50k! hehe


  384. 5m10y Says:

    How to apply? :-D


  385. NEW hope Says:

    there’s not much discussion goin on here now…?
    i hope there will be no retrenchments for you good folks out there…anytime soon! The Daily news reports don’t sound too promising.

    as for me, Monday’s the 1st day of work! although, my COO did bring me around a bit to see the colleagues on wednesday when i signed the employment letter. I discovered I will have my own office! wow.. thats gonna be a 1st for me. the other managers share the common space!

    I was given about 10 books to help with my understanding of the company & products, which i happily am browsing through past few days…

    I hope everything will be smooth. From experience, every job has its perks & flaws, just have to adapt & adjust thats all…


  386. 5m10y Says:

    That’s super cool. I want my own office also! :-)

    Anyway, glad to hear about that NEW hope. Seems like things are going real well for you.

    My best wishes.


  387. Ronaldo Says:

    with best wishes new hope . . .

    Ron


  388. NEW hope Says:

    Thanks. It was a good day at the office on my 1st day of work.


  389. christine Says:

    Ronaldo, you are a high earner and should not be bragful but use your wealth to benefit the needy. When you die (and you eventually will), who will care how much you earn when you were 27 years old? Also, I’d be very surprised if your firm continues to pay you such a high base if you don’t pull in the business, especially when Singapore faces the full brunt of recession next year. Lets see whether you still get to keep your job by then.


  390. DL Says:

    S’pore will face recession and other investment/financial problems but only for 1 year. Retrenchment, down sizing,re-engineering, etc are no strangers for those well seasoned. Be frugal and prudent in spending or making investments. Think about Lehman, AIG, Enron, CAO, etc. Be patient and it’ll soon pass over.


  391. adiemuso Says:

    DL,

    you are so sharp. you have been staring into the crystal ball?

    by all means the pain just started now. 1 year to recover? you are an optimist.


  392. gwen Says:

    hi everyone, I was wondering if you have stats on the salaries of people in hotel management or tourism, as well as their working hours. also, do I need any specific degrees?

    thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

    p.s. ronaldo, if you really must haolian your $12k pay, pls find someone who can put up with you and stop spamming this site.


  393. DL Says:

    adiemuso. I’m a former financial analyst and I stand by what I said. Ain’t no crystal balling. Just hard financial figures. We should be recovering latest by end of 2010. Anyway our SWF, Temasek & GIC have not stated any losses yet. Airlines and logistics like transportation will be badly hit. And already happening, some airlines reduced loads like safety belt, etc. Air disasters coming up?


  394. DL Says:

    Gwen. Hospitality industry salary for management posts rarely can touch above $2.3k, unless you are in higher managerial post. Avg pay around $1.9k up to $2.3k is the norm. Working hrs maybe 5 days week for mgt staff. Others like front office, hsekeeping, etc may also have 5 days wk but off days may fall on weekdays or 1 wkday and 1 wkend.


  395. adiemuso Says:

    DL,
    no offence. I stand by what i had said too.

    its too early to call any recovery in 1 year. we might have seen the short term bottom on Monday. it might take another 1-2 years before we get to see another retest and perhaps further downmove.

    what we have experience currently is just the financial shakeup and credit crunch. the weakest link in the financial and credit markets are getting purged.

    it does not end here. the real economy will be affected.

    once the fog lifts among the banks and financial markets, there will be plenty of restructuring and consolidation. likewise, the credit lines to corporates and consumers will be reviewed and reassessed.

    SWFs and Govts can only do this far, stepping in with regulations and stimulus plans. what we have seen is a dislocation of the financial markets. it has far reaching implications than mere monetary or fiscal policies.

    and the hard figures you are refering to are what we refer to as lagged data. the markets and economies are dynamic and not static. past results does not neccessarily indicate future performances.


  396. Richard Says:

    Hi, i know this sounds stupid and like many other questions people haved asked but i need some advise from you experts. I am working in a EPC company (eg; schlumberger, FMC, Modec etc..) as a project manager for about 1 year. Prior to this i had about 4 years in a marine industry. I am getting only 7k. Is this the norm? or over or under? Please help give some advise.


  397. DL Says:

    adiemuso it will definitely take a long time for pte corps to recover but the gahmen won’t go bust cos there’re always ways n means to recover losses thru taxes n spending on projects to rejuvenate income. The gahmen should see financial gains towards year end of 2009.Past n future mkts are not correlated n my analysis is dynamic too, not static. Things or events always move or evolve n nothing stays stagnant. Tats y i said not based on crystal balling but rather dynamic forecast as even most gahmen n pte sectors made various forecasts, not 100% or even 90% accurate but around 80%


  398. DL Says:

    adiemuso
    Correction. S’pore should see financial gains by end of 2010 not 2009. Typo error. Refer to my post dated 29th Oct. I definitely stand by wat I said or else i quit financial sector for good.


  399. Ronaldo Says:

    christine >>

    The reason why I can get what I am getting is because i am good and I have proven myself with results to show for it.

    I can’t count myself as overpriced but instead maybe underpriced. I expect higher salary.

    I am young and I know i can go higher from where i am now in terms of position and renumeration.

    Honestly, I am not afraid of being asked to go. I have exit plans and I can easily go to other agencies because I have already been offered packages.

    Should you or anyone else trust what I said?

    My answer to that is why should I care? I am fairly happy where I am now and I only prove to myself and no one else.

    If you think you are as good, you will already know it in your heart.

    The fact of the matter is you know you are not.

    And thats why your remarks seethe with so much jealousy and enviousness.

    Cheers
    Ron!


  400. Ronaldo Says:

    Keepng my job is no worries at all.

    This is my least concern.

    christine, you should watch your back because you might get lay off soon.

    Usually middle lower staff like you get lay off.

    Take care

    Ron


  401. B.O.S.S Says:

    “Yawn”
    “bored”
    “Yawn”
    you good , me good and everyone good.
    you goof, me goof and everyone goof
    “yawn”
    keep reading and comment..since everyone like to reply or response to this kind of pple..so you guys/gals dun mind reading what i am typing…i will keep typing since u like to read and response to nonsense..
    “yawn” bored? keep it going…since pple do like to use this forum for it actual purpose but to flame or someone to bluff or boast..same lah…u boast means no substance..kopitiam lah…so unpresidential…ai yoz..so i keep typing..talk is cheap mah…

    cheap cheap…lelong lelong..i am a md…own a country..i own the world ..u guys are peanuts..u guys are not as smart as me….like me think what else can i say…hrm..well…

    SERIOUSLY…GET A LIFE! or GET A JOB or GO DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE…STILL READING??? wow..


  402. B.O.S.S. brown-noser Says:

    B.O.S.S. -> cute! (shows that I actually read yours.)


  403. yong Says:

    is this Singapore Dollar or USD?
    I am a Electrical Hardware design engineer in KOREA. 32 years old, have a wife and 1 daughter.
    If I take a job in singapore, how much annual salary can I get in full time job?
    I visited singapore once, then I feel really nice country in the world.
    Is there anybody can advise for me?
    If you are singapore people, feel free to contact me
    I am yong. available language is English and chinese a little, korean.
    My wife can speak chinese as native.
    Thank you for your attention

    Cell : +82-10-9977-5401
    Home : +82-70-8258-5401
    Email : [email protected]


  404. christine Says:

    Thanks Ronaldo. My job is recession-proof because I am in the government. My current annual salary is definitely more than yours and I am sure my lifetime salary will be as well. I don’t really have to worry about getting another job but sad to say, I think you will.


  405. Ronaldo Says:

    Christine >

    You are naive if you think any job in the world is recession proof.

    I don’t worry about my job at all becos to my bosses I am much more of a profit centre than a cost centre.

    They can’t afford to lay me off becos I am mainly bringing in the new businesses and contacts and I am capable to handle more than dual roles.

    My department is performing well mainly due to my leadership and performance.

    So you see, how can they afford to lay me off?

    Besides, I also have my own businesses that I run with partners in the food business, yachts business and business consultancy business.

    My income spinoff from my own businesses is more than 10 -12K per month at least.

    So as you can see, what I earn from my regular job is only half of my total income.

    Worse come to worse, even if I were to quit my job, I have more than enough income to sustain myself and my cars.

    I am not worried at all.

    If you think you are earning more than me, thats good but that means you must be really earning more than roughly 30K a month.

    If you are not earning more than 30K a month regularly, then sad to say you are nowhere near me.

    Btw I will received 4 months bonuses – 1mth AWS + 3 months

    Count the maths and see if you are earning more than me.. (do add my own income from my own businesses too )

    :)


  406. Bystander Says:

    from post 399 above, ronaldo said: “My answer to that is why should I care? I am fairly happy where I am now and I only prove to myself and no one else.

    If you think you are as good, you will already know it in your heart.”

    ronaldo if so why do you keep defending yourself? since you know (or you think you know) that you are good there’s no need to keep shouting out. Apart from the false statements you keep making (someone pointed out above), your arguments do not seem grounded – as a matter of fact they reek of insecurity.

    If I may point out, you don’t think deep down inside you are that good, hence the need to expostulate and brag.

    I am not seething with jealousy nor envy, just contributing a bystander’s perspective. It doesn’t matter what you boast about (you can’t prove it here anyway and no one can check), what matters is that your actions differ greatly from your purposed values. Think about it, cheers.


  407. Neutral Says:

    Wow, Ronaldo at merely 28 yr old can earn 30k a mth. That is equavilent to the salary of a HOD director level in a Hospital whom is at least a professor. I think only born in silver spoon or genius can achieve such income (some more self delare reccession proof).

    I think you are the best if what you are saying is truth.


  408. christine Says:

    Thanks Ronaldo. You are in a very good position if everything you said is true. Go and bless others with your wealth and stop bragging about how rich and how young and how secure you are. Not many people believe you now anyway. All these don’t matter at your death-bed cos’ you can’t take your treasures with you when you go.
    All the best.


  409. not bad oled Says:

    perhaps christine is working in the admin service? perhaps ronaldo is really wealthy, in a great job, have lots of passive income generating business?
    who really knows? take it easy, there will always be wealthier, smarter, more gifted people around.


  410. Ronaldo Says:

    I can invite you over my yacht if you want.

    Dec i am throwing a launch on board my yacht.

    Free entry to my pals and invited list.

    You just have to pay $500 for entry as with all non-invited associates/ ppl.

    It shouldn’t be a problem for you since you are so rich yourself.

    Let me know if you keen.


  411. Yachter Says:

    It only costs 500 to rent a yacht for 4 hours complete with serving crew.
    you are rather deluded I must say.

    I invite you to join mine at half price :)


  412. not bad oledi Says:

    wah so cheap?


  413. Neutral Says:

    Ronaldo, since you are so rich, don’t be so stingy by making ppl who is willing to celebrate with you to paid the whole price for renting the whole boat la.


  414. Yachter Says:

    Yeah if you have an AMEX platinum reserve card you can rent the yacht for 500 with serving crew and snacks and drinks

    if ronaldo claims his salary >12K a month he should be eligible for that card


  415. everbody noticed Says:

    Ronaldo don’t need that card to rent a yacht. He already has his own yacht. And if you want to ‘join’ that [edited by admin], just pay him $500.


  416. ronaldo's fan Says:

    To ronaldo —> I am willing to pay $500 to be part of your party in december. In fact, I’ll pay more that if it’s necessary. So when’s the party? How do I recognize your beautiful boat? Any spec? Meeting a succesful guy like you is like meeting a small Warren Buffet. THANKS!!


  417. sugar Says:

    Hi Ronaldo, I am also willing to pay and go. Can you give me a address for me to send you the cheque? Can you also me a an invitation card? WHen is the party? If i bring a partner, do i get a discount? I get sea sick easily, so will the yatch be stationary or sailing? Let me know so i can get the necessary medication.


  418. not bad oledi Says:

    wah let’s make this a class excursion, oops i mean celebration of Ronaldo’s success!


  419. ron Says:

    Interesting thread, especially contributions from Ronaldo. He shall start writing a book; or perhaps it’s already in the market. If you are as what you storied, I don’t think you’ll care about arguing or wasting your time in useless defense like what you did. Wake up, liar!


  420. Ronaldo Says:

    I’m wasting my time commenting here.. all [edited by admin] & underachievers.

    Ron


  421. sugar Says:

    Hey Ronaldo, we maybe underachievers. But you have been the focal point of all our jokes and jibes! hahaha….thanks for being a good sport dude.


  422. ronaldo's fan Says:

    Dear Ronaldo,
    These people are doubting you, but not me. I’m your biggest fan. So, I’ll recommend your boats to my boss who is interested in yachts… (Business for you $$$). Can I join your dec party? You won’t mind if I take a photo of your boat to show my boss right? Do I have to pay downpayment for the entrance fee? Details? THANKS!!


  423. ronaldo's fan Says:

    Any news? THANKS!


  424. Pirate Captain Says:

    Sorry guys, no yacht party at ronaldo’s boat cos some of my boys hijacked it while he was chilling out in sentosa.. Also, no reply from ronaldo because he too, has been taken hostage by my boys .Ransom for this guy is so high that none of u underachivers can afford. Only a government bailout can save him.


  425. not bad oled Says:

    lol..and you din invite us to the party


  426. Ronaldo Says:

    Haha whatever you all say.

    Go ahead and slog for whatever amount of salaries you all get.

    Enjoy!

    Cheerios
    Ron


  427. Nick Says:

    Ronaldo sounds like a big time loser. I don’t believe that he is a high income earner. Probably some average joe trying to play punk on this website. Hahaha..


  428. not bad oledi Says:

    he’s entertainment mate..quote “focal point of all our jokes and jibes”. Sugar’s pretty much on the money.


  429. sugar Says:

    Hi Ronaldo,
    Anymore invites or anything else to say?? I need some more things to make fun of! Either you contribute, or you leave this forum. Go somewhere else to show off. Or you also can change your nick to something else and start over again…in any case its still fun for us, underacheivers. Waiting for you….:)


  430. Ronaldo Says:

    a pity in this website there exists lots of people who can’t earn >$12K per month and yet try to behave like they are high disposal income earners and are full of themselves with noses up in the air.

    There’s a huge difference between reality and reel life.

    Ponder this.

    Cheers!
    Ron


  431. Ronaldo Says:

    Great news to me in this depressed market for people like you.

    My company’s turnover is greater than projected and next yrs forcast is better than this year’s.

    I’m expecting a 20% – 25% increment next year.:)

    Cheers!
    Ron


  432. Goodie Says:

    Good for you! Getting one step closer to the big leagues eh?

    That 12k you keep waving around is getting old, really. Hopefully your salary will be increased to at least 15k (25%).


  433. ronaldo's fan Says:

    Good for you ronaldo. Unlike many ppl here, I knew that you can always make it. …Can I join the yacht party this coming december? Since you’ll be getting a pay rise, can u then give me a discount (just kidding)? Keep me updated ya! THANKS!!


  434. Ronaldo's fan Says:

    Ronaldo


  435. sugar Says:

    Hi Ronaldo,

    Can you teach me how to get 12k salary? I try so hard but cannot. Can you give some tips? reach 10k i also happy. I am begging you almighty


  436. Goodie Says:

    How to get 12k salary? In salary.sg you can get 50k salary if you want :-P

    (Not to mention yachts, rubbing shoulders with the elites, etc. etc.)

    Real life? Donno leh. Only Ronaldo can tell you… hahaha…


  437. sugar Says:

    Ronaldo….quick post something!! all of us are waiting for you advise on how to get 12k…we are all poorly paid…quick!!!!


  438. Nick Says:

    Hey ronaldo. Do you play in the EPL? Maybe that’s the secret to getting $12k/mth. Damn freaking loser. My uncle who is a multi millionaire is a businessman. I won’t see him coming to such forums to waste his time like you. The really rich guys don’t need to flaunt their wealths through all these pathetic forums. Their material wealth speaks all for themselves. In my humble opinion, you are truly a freaking loser. I love to see you cry wolf. Damn comical. You should change line to become a comedian. Perhaps you ll earn more money that way. But in the meantime, get lost dude. Haha


  439. Ronaldo Says:

    Hahaha.. It would be more appropriate teling your mom what you said.
    Btw where does she works?
    Geylang client servicing?
    Maybe ur mom will cry wolf .. or would her clients wolf wolf instead..

    The story will unfold when you ask ur mom tonight..


  440. Ronaldo Says:

    i’m so glad i am in my job. Great perks and all..

    Good luck to the rest of you all. Hope none of you wil get retrenched :)
    Cheers!

    :)


  441. Goodie Says:

    Wow that’s a change. Calling somebody’s Mom a geylang worker? He struck a nerve eh?

    Usually when somebody tell you your 12k is nothing you’ll start going on and on about the perks lah, can play golf at 3pm or whatever lah, or your friend got yachts lah, you’re only a tender young age of 28 lah… you know, the usual broken record drill. (I guess now you’ve added the “my job is very recession-proof” to your repertoire, so that’s a nice change, thanks.)


  442. sugar Says:

    Hey Ronaldo, i realised you have never answered any of my post to you! Why is it? I asked about the yatch….now i am asking you to give me some advise on earning 12k a month…which i will never reach without your mighty advice. please ignore the rest and just tell me.


  443. Nick Says:

    ronaldo, how do you earn your 12k/mth with all the perks? Do you work as a gigolo serving old grandmas? Hahaha.. Loser.. i can imagine the old and fat rich tai tai throwing a stash of cash into your face after a good romp. :D Btw, your job as a gigolo is recession proof.


  444. Old fat rich tai tai Says:

    Don’t insult us by saying that we throw cash onto ronaldo’s face… i dun mind if you say that we throw $ to others ppl face. U can say that we throw into some ugly looking dude’s face, u can even say that we throw onto a trolls face. BUT NEVER ASSOCIATE US WITH A DISGUSTING GUY LIKE Ronaldo!


  445. Pirate captain Says:

    I already said, Ronaldo had been captured by my boys of the coast of sentosa. How’s he gonna respond to u guys? … Only being a pirate is recession proof.


  446. DL Says:

    Give Ronaldo a break guys, after all he’s the President of his own nation – IMAGINATION. He ought to be cos he says he’s in marketing line. Hahaha.


  447. DHL Says:

    time to move on and get a life! It’s 2008 now, and this is an old thread showcasing the pai kah ronaldo. Free agents earn 12k a month.


  448. SHOCK ~! Says:

    Am shocked that the wages shown is not that accurate. Being A nurse in Singapore for so many years, the cut off points is not 4k and above. In fact the mthly pay is normally range from 1.3k to 2k for the majority even after wking for avg 7 yrs. If u r using the info from the end of year…the CPF includes the bonus part and even the new year ang bao given to the staffs by the employer.


  449. Capt. Thum Ban Shii Says:

    I am suprise in the 2007 ranking that ship master and aircraft captain is not on the list. Now the salary of ship master for Filipino, my company is paying USD 7,500 per month, equivalent to S$10,875 per month.
    While for Singaporean and Malaysian, we are paying USD 9,500 per month, equivalent to S$13,775. One year work 8 months onboard and rest 4 months. Salary 12 months + 1 month AWS + 3 months bonus. If include bonus and AWS, it will come to S$18,366 per month for Singaporean and Malaysian. This salary is apply to container ship, tankers and AHT. For chemical tanker and LNG, salary will be 30% higher. Further, working onboard Singapore flag ship, all salary is tax exempted. I am welcome more Singaporean to go to sailing.


  450. GY Says:

    heyy i’m shocked by the pay of sailors dude :D
    well do you have any idea of the pay of pilots?
    would it be around the same as a sailor? Would anyone mind answering this? I’m actually looking forward to David’s answer if he is still here :D


  451. Passerby Says:

    Hi all,

    For those of you have a job now, pls be grateful and stop comparing and complaining. It wont get u anywhere… :/
    How much you get paid does not really matter.
    Most importantly, you must love your job! (and enuff for u to make ends meet) =)

    Btw, I’m a Logistic Exec drawing a meagre pay with a ton of workload. But I LOVE my job! Cheers!

    Work Hard guys and thank god that you still have a job! :)


  452. Passerby Says:

    Hi Ronaldo,

    I guess not alot of pple enjoy or have such good fortune to draw such a high paying salary at your age. You may argue that you deserve the amt of salary with your education. But still be grateful + senstive and spare a thought for those who are now jobless with family to fees due to retrenchment.
    Time is bad and its going to turn worse. If you are still able now (finacially),
    do consider making donation to charitable bodies and do your part for the society.

    Cheers!


  453. shipbroker/charterer Says:

    hey, i am 16 this year. will be taking my “O” levels in a few months time. i was thinking if anyone here in this forum is a shipbroker/charterer? Or is able to tell me info shipbroking/chartering? Like for example experiences, salary(both basic and how much bonus you earned), workload.. etc. also, the route taken to this career, what qualifications you possess.
    thank you!


  454. Ash Says:

    Hi, I’m a registered/staff nurse, i’ve been working for 3 years and my pay is $2k. To earn $4k/ mth,you have to work for around 40 plus years to get this pay, and I’m sure all the nurses will agree with me. Starting pay was $1.5k. Every increment was around $17 to 50.

    So, I do believe this website need to do surveys before misleading people that nurses earned a lot.


  455. game1980 Says:

    I think nurses with degrees are getting paid more doing admin work so the website may not be wrong.


  456. game1980 Says:

    Occupation: Nurse

    Position Wage
    1 ENROLLED / ASSISTANT NURSE 1,820
    2 INDUSTRIAL NURSE 3,490
    3 PROFESSIONAL NURSE 2,564
    4 SPECIALISED NURSE 3,285

    All data pertain to private sector establishments with at least 25 employees


  457. man1972 Says:

    Dear all,

    Accidentally stumbled into this site, as trying to find out some market salary benchmarks for my new staffs.

    FYI, a software engineer with 2-3 years of experience ( C++, C#, .net, java, SQL…) in my engineering solutions company gets about SGD 4-5k per month (basic) excluding bonuses.

    Currently the economy everywhere is doing badly. I sincerely hope that for those who earn a lot of money, so much that they find difficulties in spending it, please donate some to charities. I am a volunteer in a couple of charitable organisations and I understand the difficulty to raise money at present times.

    Chong


  458. Goodie Says:

    It’s quite sad if you think about it. When I started more than a decade ago I was paid about that much too.

    10 years later, after all the inflation, they are still paid around the same amount…


  459. Ronaldo Says:

    Goodie.. > it’s not sad because whatever inflation there was in the last few years or the past decade has been brought tumbling down by this current global market down turn.

    Most of the inflation like COLA has been re-adjusted back to historical rates of 8 to 10 years ago.

    Thus its not much the inflation as you mentioned that is mainly bringing down people’s disposable income and propensity to spend but instead the large amount of retrenchments & pay cut exercise being carried out by companies now.


  460. Ronaldo Says:

    Honestly though my pay is still intact with no cuts yet or indication of any cuts, i can see that my workload has doubled compared from last year.

    I have no problem with that.

    Quite frankly if my company do well and generate profitability and my performance is good, I can and will expect another round of increment again this year.

    Cheers!
    Ron


  461. jackrabbit Says:

    Hi all…

    Some of this info is quite confusing. I am interested in knowing the salary range for academic positions – so, assist. prof., assoc. prof and prof. I did read those links and threads which refer to ranges like 72K – 100K for assist. prof; 110K-150K for assoc. prof and above (max 200K) for full profs. But here is the question: are these all gross salaries? Do they include rent etc? Do these salaries also reflect adjustment for taxes that may be due in the US – in other words, are the salaries tax-adjusted? I am assuming that the junior positions require a PhD, some good publications, and at least 4 years of teaching and research background.

    I am asking this because there was one site (I think it was a Times Online site) where an individual from the Personnel office of NTU wrote back to say that the pay for an assoc. prof at the lowest level in SG (in 2008) was around 100K (but this was in US$), which is about 130K in S$.

    Thanks in advance for any info that you may be able to share on this matter.

    Cheers!


  462. pilot Says:

    Y pilots are not considered?


  463. Alex Says:

    Pilots at SQ earn 120K per year right


  464. non-pilot Says:

    120k only? are you sure? i think they make alot more than 120k if you include allowances and bonuses


  465. Alex Says:

    A friend of mine is a pilot with SQ, been working for about 3 yrs, annual salary of 120K not sure if theres any additional payouts


  466. non-pilot Says:

    Alex, 3 yrs? from what i know, they need to take 3 years to complete their training and become a 2nd officer. during these first 3 years of training, they only get allowances of ard 1-2k. unless you are saying that he has been a 2nd or 1st officer for 3 years since completing his training.


  467. Alex Says:

    yes i mean 3 years after completing training, he is currently a 1st officer


  468. no pay Says:

    your friend may be asked to go on no pay leave soon. his colleagues in cargo have already been asked to go on up to 30!! months of leave without salary.


  469. Alex Says:

    hes still flying so far, i would doubt that sia is going to stop flying any routes so i guess the pilots will still be working


  470. Shanghai Says:

    120k annually is not a difficult sum for 1st officers. Most of them earn that as long as they fly.


  471. Alex Says:

    yeah it seems to be a pretty good life, and at age 28 that salary is pretty hard to beat in most other fields.


  472. insider Says:

    Alex, please read this link and this link

    Who says SIA is not “going to stop flying any routes”? Before this story was run, it axed a few destinations as well, was it Russia?

    Do take a read at the 2nd story. SIA sounds like it’s in trouble.


  473. KS Says:

    Hey, how come no mention about the Prime Minister position here. It’s one of the highest paid job here in Singapore. Seriously, politicians here earn alot.

    Just look at our current PM Lee Hsien Loong. From the reports i gathered online it seems that he earn about S$3,870,000/yr or $322,500/mth.

    So i guess a job to be considered for some. ;)


  474. curious-scientist Says:

    How much do a post-doctoral fellow will get per month.
    I mean a research scientist from biomedical phd degree from a reputed German University.


  475. paymaster Says:

    http://www.payscale.com/…Biot...


  476. Postdoc Says:

    Curious_scientist: Post-doctoral fellow and research scientist are quite different concepts at least at the place where I work :-) Post-doctoral fellow: from ~4.5-6.5SGD/month, research scientist: don’t know, but more.


  477. Seema Says:

    Admin,
    Would need a favor from you.
    1] What would be basic package offered to a Senior Software Test Engineer(Working in one of top most reputed US Based Invest Bank having around 4 to 5 years of experience) by a market leaders like CreditSuisse or Barclays or any other?

    2] What other perks they offer?
    3] What is leaving expense in Singapore for a family of 3 people?

    Regards,
    Seema


  478. Admin(fake) Says:

    Seema, not alot. Especially after you have shown your potential employers that you cannot even spell “living” and “investment”…


  479. Seema Says:

    Admin,

    This post is just the one that I have copied from above because I find it matching to my query.

    Nevertheless I am still waiting for the answer.


  480. barclays Says:

    Seema, should be around 15-18k/month. That should be just about enough for a family of 3. Anything below 13k and they’re probably trying to underpay you. Be careful and don’t give in too easily during negotiations.

    Perks come with 48 days annual leave (including family care leave), 2 year hospitalization leave (only 16 months is paid leave), 3 years maternity leave, etc. You should re-confirm these numbers with the HR department before signing the contract.

    Good luck!


  481. buckey Says:

    dear barclays, got so much? maybe 10 years later?


  482. Admin(fake) Says:

    buckey, think barclays is trying to tell Seema to dream on


  483. seema Says:

    Hey I have been offered S$4500 monthly. How much can i save monthly (I ma with my family of 3)


  484. barclays Says:

    seema, if you are very careful and frugal, after paying for rent, etc., typically you’ll be able to save around SGD1000, assuming that your family of 3 are willing to live a very simple life (per year).


  485. Melissa Says:

    I wish to find out the standard pay for a senior nurse of 17 years experience, isn’t $3000 too low? Working in the same company for 14 years. Starting at $1500 being a registered nurse since 1992
    Thanks


  486. to melissa Says:

    Hi Melissa, I feel for you. Please look at http://www.payscale.com/research/SG.... I think nurses and caregivers should be given much higher pay. It’s around SGD 3k/month.


  487. aussie Says:

    Hi nurses are well paid in Australia so come join the aussie experience!


  488. junta Says:

    Hi folks,
    I am a Phd in physical chemistry from germany. Having 4 years of postdoctoral experience in europe. I am 35 yrs old and would like to know about the salary range at IMRE, singapore
    (institute for materials research and engineering) for a research engineer position. Any information regarding whether I will apply for a rsearch engineer or senior research engineer position will be helpful.
    Thanks
    Junta


  489. galstuckinbanking Says:

    Hi everything, can someone shed somelights to a freshgradyate just started her career in banking.I m paid 3k+ for a trainee position in a foreign bank.It is supposed to be fast track career path and pretty premising future, but I m not exactly happy with where I am(huge organization+complex structure+long hours).I m thinking about something more of sales in nature(basic+commision) and flexible in working hours.Any recommendation? ( no MLM please) Many thanks!


  490. researcher Says:

    Hello there,
    can anybody tell me what is the average base salary for a Bsc (Hons) in biotechnology with 7 years of experience.
    I feel that my salary is below the average, around 2.9k/mth


  491. researcher2 Says:

    2.9k is too little for anyone with a degree and SEVEN years of experience. Are u working in a full time research position? Heck, even the allowance for full time PhD students is 2-3k. Buut if you’re stuck, you’re stuck. Get a better job when times are better.


  492. osoBankIT Says:

    To Seema: your offer is from ‘leading investment bank’? you sure 4500? x 12? sorry to probe, just want to feel the real market…


  493. DL Says:

    Now it’s employers’ market imagine a local listed firm thru CDC offering PMET with Pro Dip a basic pay of abt $700 to $800 max excl meagre comm of between .5-3% selling appliances.


  494. DL Says:

    Attn KS, even all of our MPs besides the MM, 2 SM, PM are all the Top 30 highest paid civil servants frm the world.


  495. researcher Says:

    Hi researcher 2, thanks for your info


  496. researcher Says:

    But do you know roughly what’s the salary range for my qualification? Or can anyone pls advice me on that?


  497. researcher2 Says:

    I would say 4.5k is minimum and 5-6k is reasonable. You shoulld’ve taken advantage of the good job market 2 years ago.


  498. researcher Says:

    Wow!! that’s a lot to me :)
    Yea, I missed the good opportunity. Currently is quite difficult to search for a job, so I wouldn’t dare to think about high pay. I’ve been staying with the same company for 7 years and the increment is so low, I guess it would take me for about 15 years to reach that amount.


  499. To galstuckinbanking Says:

    Have u been told what role u would play after your training period ends? ’cause there are various sales roles in banks..such as relationship managers, treasury sales..though the hours may not be as flexible as financial planners or property agents..


  500. automation_guy Says:

    Hi all,
    can someone tell me what is the average base salary for a Bsc in Electronic with 5 years of experience in PLC automation field?


  501. transformers Says:

    transformers and terminators are the way to go! huge market making robots, $$$ too.


  502. david Says:

    Hi everyone,

    i have been called for an interview for a Marketing Executive position. i have no prior experience in marketing but about 3 years in another field.

    i do have a degree in marketing. What would be a fair salary/salary range to ask for?


  503. to david Says:

    Basically you will be competing with all the fresh graduates. I suggest you lower your expectations and be prepared for a pay cut. If you are interested in the job, just tell them you really appreciate the opportunity and you will seriously consider any fair offer.


  504. to to david Says:

    that’s wise council =)


  505. unpredictable Says:

    hi, i have degree courses offers from NUS and SMU.
    NUS real estate and SMU biz mgmt.

    if i enrol into smu, i would like to major in finance.

    what are the prospect and career advancement of studying NUS real estate (which is a rather niche market)? there are positive reviews bout the saalaries in the finance industry.

    can any kind soul guide me on the real estate industry? would really appreciate any kind of constructive advices. ty!


  506. TO unpredictable Says:

    Just enrol for SMU Biz mgmt. Don’t even think about doing real estate.. You get way more mileage in finance even though the industry seems to be ravaged currently. Finance will bounce back quicker and higher than any other industry sector ultimately ..


  507. unpredictable Says:

    ty for your reply anonymous, as much as i wanted to enrol for smu, but another part of my mind tells me that i should enrol into real estate because it might be a valuable set of skill to the industry since there are only less than 150 grads from the course. whereas, there are bout 2k of biz grad every year. this is a tough decision to decide =(


  508. TO unpredictable Says:

    Real estate industry in Singapore is highly cyclical and a rather small sector. I can’t really see much juice in that sector compared to finance.

    In any case, if you are a coin toss from making your decision. Just follow your passion, you will gain more utility enjoying higher satisfaction than a few hundred dollars in a job you have no interest in.

    Life isn’t all about making money..


  509. techfreak Says:

    any thoughts on IT careers in SG? what the ideal salary for an industr certified IT grad with 4 years of experience… dealing with windows servers and clients?


  510. itpro Says:

    I think someone posted a comment here that IT consultants in MNCs make 100k a yr and upwards. I’m an IT Pro with around your experience but my pay sucks.
    My feel is that unless you take on a leadership role or work in big MNCs, or have skills that few others have, your pay will just be average.


  511. newbie Says:

    Question about postdoctral fellow salary in NTU:

    I got my PhD in biology in good reputated Uni in Germany, and 2 years postdoc experience in one of the top Uni in USA. Now I got an offer from a lab in NTU with 5k S$ per month, is it reasonable price for a 2 years experienced postdoc? and is it enough to support a family (2 ppl only, no kids)?


  512. techfreak Says:

    what’s a fair offer for an IT pro moving in SG?


  513. postdoc Says:

    @newbie, your offer is fair. With $5k, a small family can lead a slightly above-average lifestyle in Singapore – rent a small HDB flat, shop at NTUC and heartland malls, eat in most of the time (or eat at food courts) and perhaps dine out in mid-range restaurants once or twice a week.


  514. phd wannabe Says:

    phd 5k onli?


  515. junta Says:

    Hi folks,
    I am a Phd in physical chemistry from germany. Having 4 years of postdoctoral experience in europe. I am 35 yrs old and would like to know about the salary range at IMRE, singapore
    (institute for materials research and engineering) for a research engineer position. Any information regarding whether I will apply for a rsearch engineer or senior research engineer position will be helpful.
    Thanks
    Junta


  516. wii Says:

    hi there
    I am IT developer(associate,FID) from a top tier investment bank(GS,MS,ML..) with 3 years experience.I’d like to know the salary range here.(80k-120k?)


  517. xbox Says:

    tell us your salary first.


  518. phd wannabe Says:

    enough to buy more than 300 xbox elite a year. think i play xbox is sufficient no need to study so hard for phd.


  519. junta Says:

    still no reply?????????????


  520. not IMRE Says:

    junta, why don’t you write to IMRE directly?


  521. phd wannabe Says:

    http://retrenchment-blog.breaking.s...


  522. to wii Says:

    up to SGD 100,000 (ex bonus). not a lot but on the up side, cost of living is much lower here compared to NY and TKY. it is also easier to mingle here as most people, sans the locals, treat this place as a big party before returning to their home country to further their careers.


  523. SB Says:

    Hi,
    I have an experience of 6.5 years in the design and development of embedded, wireless and hardware systems with a masters degree. What is the salary I can expect for the staff design engineer offered by a wireless design firm.

    Also can anybody through some light on the salary structure usually follwed here?(like bonus, base salary and CPF contributions)

    thanks and regards,
    SB


  524. Goodie Says:

    @wii and to wii: with 3 years of experience, up to 100k? Man you’re setting wii up for disappointment…


  525. wii Says:

    to Goodie:
    any other comments?how about morganstanley or merrill lynch?


  526. fresh Says:

    hi i am a fresh frm ns.. how much is average pay for financial consultant?


  527. ddttng Says:

    Hi,need some advice from anyone who can help me.

    I passed the ACCA exams-an accounting professional qualification for those who do not know-but been jobless for months. Grades are mediocre.I’m a foreigner from neighbouring country on student pass.Did usual application to countless banks and accounting firms and no reply.Have tried many manufacturing/contruction co located at ulu ulu tuas/jurong for account exec or assistant position but they only want people with experience. Last month I send resume to Singhealth for a position that equire N/O level but even that I cannot get it. How come?Is it becos they think I’m trying to be funny to apply for a job I’m overqualified for? Cos I’m very very very desperate for a job. Everytime I go back my dad always ask me ‘found a job yet?’.Damn stressed.

    I am willing to take up admin or clerical roles, or receptionist, or support, or assistant.. I NEED income.Can’t keep on relying on hand-out from family.We are not rich.Flipping classified every fri/sat is making me damn depressed. Don’t even mind being an errand girl in the office in ANY co in ANY industry.

    Pls help..I cannot do part-time work or temp or contract cos I need employment pass. Any one in different industry have openings in their co that does not need specific degrees,like admin work?Pls advice which other jobs, if any, I can apply to.I’m even happy with salary of #600-$800 as long I can get a job to tide me over until economy recovers.BIG thanks.


  528. Goodie Says:

    @wii: I suggest you talk to a few headhunters to get a feel of the range. The range that “to wii” mentioned is closer to AVP level lah. Warrao.

    The best way is really to interview and see what they offer you. And yes, I am talking about Merrill, BarCap, etc.

    You can probably get close to that if you’re REALLY exceptional and have the relevant experience.


  529. to SB Says:

    as I know Agilent Tech base salary is about 60k(+/- 20%) for 3-5 years engineer.


  530. phd wannabe to ddttng Says:

    ain’t trying to burst your bubble nor put you down buddy but the news look bleak http://retrenchment-blog.breaking.s...


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