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	<title>Comments on: Graduate Employment Surveys (published 2009)</title>
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		<title>By: satisfied</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10708</link>
		<dc:creator>satisfied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terms are bad. That&#039;s why many are scholarship rejects. 

Notice he/she keeps quiet on the things he/she knows he/she can&#039;t refute. On the fake puffing up of salary and the income figure from the list inapplicable to most doctors.

He or she needs to console him/herelf by adding some random figure to his/her sad pay and puffing it up to another random figure and saying &quot;its subsidised so we need to include that as part of their salaries&quot;. 

Everytime I feel I need a good laugh, I&#039;ll go back and read that post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terms are bad. That&#8217;s why many are scholarship rejects. </p>
<p>Notice he/she keeps quiet on the things he/she knows he/she can&#8217;t refute. On the fake puffing up of salary and the income figure from the list inapplicable to most doctors.</p>
<p>He or she needs to console him/herelf by adding some random figure to his/her sad pay and puffing it up to another random figure and saying &#8220;its subsidised so we need to include that as part of their salaries&#8221;. </p>
<p>Everytime I feel I need a good laugh, I&#8217;ll go back and read that post.</p>
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		<title>By: banker</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10705</link>
		<dc:creator>banker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the thick-skinned NUS med undergrad pasted only says that the course is subsidized. Yet, as rightly pointed out by someone earlier, all local university courses are subsidized. The alleged subsidies are only linked to the bond time of six years of servitude in the article provided.

It says NOTHING about the alleged peanut salaries being higher than they are cos of the alleged &quot;grant&quot;, which was what we laughed about earlier and also the claim of this NUS undergrad/grad who ostensibly has no brains.

You gotta serve a bloody long bond at third-world peanut wage terms when you didn&#039;t even get to go overseas and travel the world glamorously and was stuck here? Hahahaaa

Do you know how much the Admin Service officers are paid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the thick-skinned NUS med undergrad pasted only says that the course is subsidized. Yet, as rightly pointed out by someone earlier, all local university courses are subsidized. The alleged subsidies are only linked to the bond time of six years of servitude in the article provided.</p>
<p>It says NOTHING about the alleged peanut salaries being higher than they are cos of the alleged &#8220;grant&#8221;, which was what we laughed about earlier and also the claim of this NUS undergrad/grad who ostensibly has no brains.</p>
<p>You gotta serve a bloody long bond at third-world peanut wage terms when you didn&#8217;t even get to go overseas and travel the world glamorously and was stuck here? Hahahaaa</p>
<p>Do you know how much the Admin Service officers are paid?</p>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10704</link>
		<dc:creator>lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha everyone, &quot;Doc&quot;&#039;s a troll, he&#039;s been lurking on these forums for some time now. 

Don&#039;t Feed the Trolls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha everyone, &#8220;Doc&#8221;&#8216;s a troll, he&#8217;s been lurking on these forums for some time now. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t Feed the Trolls!</p>
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		<title>By: doc</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10702</link>
		<dc:creator>doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mr Logic

http://admissions.nus.edu.sg/financial-tution-fees-undergraduate.html

At present, undergraduate education at NUS is highly subsidized by the Government of Singapore, which pays for the bulk of the operating costs besides the infrastructural costs. The University’s fees are reviewed and adjusted periodically to reflect the cost of providing education to students. The substantial tuition subsidy from the Government of Singapore comes in the form of a tuition grant which is administered by the Ministry of Education (MOE) and offered to all admitted students. Students who apply for and are approved for the tuition grants need only pay subsidised fees (also referred to as the “Direct Payment” portion of fees). While the tuition grant is not repayable, and Singapore citizens in receipt of it will not be required to undertake a service bond, the following accountability measures will apply: 

Singapore citizens on Public Service Commission (PSC) scholarships or bursaries will be required to undertake a service bond under the terms of such scholarships or bursaries.
All students, regardless of nationality, admitted to the Faculties of Medicine or Dentistry (in the case of Singapore citizens, only those who are not on PSC scholarships or bursaries) will be required to undertake a service bond with the Singapore Ministry of Health for five or six years for Singapore citizens or Singapore Permanent Residents/international students pursuing the medical course respectively, and four or five years for Singapore citizens or Singapore Permanent Residents/international students pursuing the dental course respectively.
All Singapore Permanent Residents and international students (except those already in receipt of a service bond from the PSC or the Ministry of Health) will be required to undertake a service bond under the terms of the tuition grant to work for a Singapore-registered company for three years upon completion of their degrees so as to discharge some of their obligations to the Singapore public for the high subsidy to their university education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mr Logic</p>
<p><a href="http://admissions.nus.edu.sg/financial-tution-fees-undergraduate.html" rel="nofollow">http://admissions.nus.edu.sg/financial-tution-fees-undergraduate.html</a></p>
<p>At present, undergraduate education at NUS is highly subsidized by the Government of Singapore, which pays for the bulk of the operating costs besides the infrastructural costs. The University’s fees are reviewed and adjusted periodically to reflect the cost of providing education to students. The substantial tuition subsidy from the Government of Singapore comes in the form of a tuition grant which is administered by the Ministry of Education (MOE) and offered to all admitted students. Students who apply for and are approved for the tuition grants need only pay subsidised fees (also referred to as the “Direct Payment” portion of fees). While the tuition grant is not repayable, and Singapore citizens in receipt of it will not be required to undertake a service bond, the following accountability measures will apply: </p>
<p>Singapore citizens on Public Service Commission (PSC) scholarships or bursaries will be required to undertake a service bond under the terms of such scholarships or bursaries.<br />
All students, regardless of nationality, admitted to the Faculties of Medicine or Dentistry (in the case of Singapore citizens, only those who are not on PSC scholarships or bursaries) will be required to undertake a service bond with the Singapore Ministry of Health for five or six years for Singapore citizens or Singapore Permanent Residents/international students pursuing the medical course respectively, and four or five years for Singapore citizens or Singapore Permanent Residents/international students pursuing the dental course respectively.<br />
All Singapore Permanent Residents and international students (except those already in receipt of a service bond from the PSC or the Ministry of Health) will be required to undertake a service bond under the terms of the tuition grant to work for a Singapore-registered company for three years upon completion of their degrees so as to discharge some of their obligations to the Singapore public for the high subsidy to their university education.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Logic</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10699</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Including subsidies from studies and believing that it was a &quot;grant&quot; is the weirdest sad story I ever heard.

What a &quot;grant&quot; means, is that the holder doesn&#039;t get penalised for it. This term is used for placement for PhD studies, where the holder gets a position to read a PhD and a stipend. In turn, the papers he writes in the course of his pursuits are credited to the university.

It&#039;s the same reason scholars are not supposed to &quot;pay back&quot;  the scholarship amount through their salaries later.

Here&#039;s a revelation, sunshine. If the amount of a so-called &quot;grant&quot; is later deducted from one&#039;s salary, or so its claimed, then it was NEVER a grant. If this hogwash was indeed told to the local med students on paper, it goes to show how stupid they are to not have noticed or questioned it.

Many people apply to med school because there are many places available (&gt;250) and nobody only applies to one thing.  People apply to a suite of options and see what they end up later on and take up what they think is the best. 

What everyone knows but is too polite to say is that many people in med school are PSC rejects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Including subsidies from studies and believing that it was a &#8220;grant&#8221; is the weirdest sad story I ever heard.</p>
<p>What a &#8220;grant&#8221; means, is that the holder doesn&#8217;t get penalised for it. This term is used for placement for PhD studies, where the holder gets a position to read a PhD and a stipend. In turn, the papers he writes in the course of his pursuits are credited to the university.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same reason scholars are not supposed to &#8220;pay back&#8221;  the scholarship amount through their salaries later.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a revelation, sunshine. If the amount of a so-called &#8220;grant&#8221; is later deducted from one&#8217;s salary, or so its claimed, then it was NEVER a grant. If this hogwash was indeed told to the local med students on paper, it goes to show how stupid they are to not have noticed or questioned it.</p>
<p>Many people apply to med school because there are many places available (&gt;250) and nobody only applies to one thing.  People apply to a suite of options and see what they end up later on and take up what they think is the best. </p>
<p>What everyone knows but is too polite to say is that many people in med school are PSC rejects.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Logic</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10698</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The income figure for specialised surgeon refers only to a minute percentile among medical grads. The rest of them on the bell curve make less than many high-paying professions. 

Out of the yearly output of med grads, how many of them don&#039;t drop out of specialty training and end up as GPs? please lah..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The income figure for specialised surgeon refers only to a minute percentile among medical grads. The rest of them on the bell curve make less than many high-paying professions. </p>
<p>Out of the yearly output of med grads, how many of them don&#8217;t drop out of specialty training and end up as GPs? please lah..</p>
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		<title>By: doc</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10693</link>
		<dc:creator>doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Specialised surgeon – $27,977
2. Managing director – $26,444
3. Personal banker – $20,238
4. Commodities futures broker – $19,098
5. General manager – $18,068

Here are the stats to prove that doc earn the most among the professions. 
Ever wonder why so many students apply to medicine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Specialised surgeon – $27,977<br />
2. Managing director – $26,444<br />
3. Personal banker – $20,238<br />
4. Commodities futures broker – $19,098<br />
5. General manager – $18,068</p>
<p>Here are the stats to prove that doc earn the most among the professions.<br />
Ever wonder why so many students apply to medicine?</p>
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		<title>By: Yup</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10692</link>
		<dc:creator>Yup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least you can be miserable in comfort... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least you can be miserable in comfort&#8230; <img src='http://www.salary.sg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Take That</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10691</link>
		<dc:creator>Take That</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money alone will not give u satisfaction. I used to work for a Korean MNC, working for 60 to 70 hours per week. I am no happy at all.I see my social life wane away and my health deteriote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money alone will not give u satisfaction. I used to work for a Korean MNC, working for 60 to 70 hours per week. I am no happy at all.I see my social life wane away and my health deteriote.</p>
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		<title>By: banker</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/#comment-10690</link>
		<dc:creator>banker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SMU Accountancy Undergrad, what function *will* you be joining in a bank? Haven&#039;t even graduate and talking out of your ass. Another ass-talker. There are so many in this website from the local Us!

The starting salaries for back and middle office entrants, even those enlisted in one of those half baked associate programmes which actually offer nothing, range from $2.4k to $2.8k only. And this was back in 2007 pre crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMU Accountancy Undergrad, what function *will* you be joining in a bank? Haven&#8217;t even graduate and talking out of your ass. Another ass-talker. There are so many in this website from the local Us!</p>
<p>The starting salaries for back and middle office entrants, even those enlisted in one of those half baked associate programmes which actually offer nothing, range from $2.4k to $2.8k only. And this was back in 2007 pre crisis.</p>
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