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	<title>Comments on: Again, President&#8217;s Scholars Not Doing Engineering or Science</title>
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		<title>By: Why</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-9491</link>
		<dc:creator>Why</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please refer to
http://www.pscscholarships.gov.sg/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please refer to<br />
<a href="http://www.pscscholarships.gov.sg/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pscscholarships.gov.sg/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Why</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-9489</link>
		<dc:creator>Why</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I am wrong. SAF Scholarship are part of PSC Scholarship, just like SPF Scholarship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I am wrong. SAF Scholarship are part of PSC Scholarship, just like SPF Scholarship.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-9487</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 04:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw this site again after getting an email again...

@wrong move: I don&#039;t know, time will tell I guess. I&#039;m doing a mixed degree, with some engineering major and a political science and computer science minors. Also, in the US, most of the business people did engineering in the undergraduate days- engineers are still really respected, at least in silicon valley, where I study.

@gevo: that&#039;s true. I&#039;m a &quot;pretengineer&quot;... if there was nothing else in the world, I would study political science. But I want to pick up engineering skills so I can create stuff, so yeah

@saf too: and police as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this site again after getting an email again&#8230;</p>
<p>@wrong move: I don&#8217;t know, time will tell I guess. I&#8217;m doing a mixed degree, with some engineering major and a political science and computer science minors. Also, in the US, most of the business people did engineering in the undergraduate days- engineers are still really respected, at least in silicon valley, where I study.</p>
<p>@gevo: that&#8217;s true. I&#8217;m a &#8220;pretengineer&#8221;&#8230; if there was nothing else in the world, I would study political science. But I want to pick up engineering skills so I can create stuff, so yeah</p>
<p>@saf too: and police as well!</p>
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		<title>By: saf too</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-9486</link>
		<dc:creator>saf too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 03:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS scholars are also chosen from SAF scholars. Doubly prestigious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS scholars are also chosen from SAF scholars. Doubly prestigious.</p>
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		<title>By: Why</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-9484</link>
		<dc:creator>Why</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President&#039;s Scholars are chosen ONLY from PSC scholarship applicants. If your passions is on Engineering or Science, you will not apply for PSC, perhaps you will apply A*STAR or DSTA. Hence no Enginners or Scientist will be awarded the Predident&#039;s Scholars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President&#8217;s Scholars are chosen ONLY from PSC scholarship applicants. If your passions is on Engineering or Science, you will not apply for PSC, perhaps you will apply A*STAR or DSTA. Hence no Enginners or Scientist will be awarded the Predident&#8217;s Scholars.</p>
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		<title>By: gevo</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-9395</link>
		<dc:creator>gevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would still like to believe that the people who are really passionate about science and engineering would not like to join the civil service -  there is no chance for them to practice their skills and to showcase what they&#039;ve learnt. and the fact that a*star and dsta take away some (if not most) of the STEM scholars, you have less STEM scholars with PSC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would still like to believe that the people who are really passionate about science and engineering would not like to join the civil service &#8211;  there is no chance for them to practice their skills and to showcase what they&#8217;ve learnt. and the fact that a*star and dsta take away some (if not most) of the STEM scholars, you have less STEM scholars with PSC.</p>
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		<title>By: Engineering in Singapore?</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-8458</link>
		<dc:creator>Engineering in Singapore?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read a very interesting article on Salary.sg regarding engineering in Singapore. It worries that Singapore is increasingly becoming &#8220;high cost, low tech&#8221;, and that careers in engineering in Singapore is losing out to business, finance and accountancy careers. It follows on a long discussion on that site of how engineering is a dead end career, and how President&#8217;s scholars in the past two batches are not doing engineering. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read a very interesting article on Salary.sg regarding engineering in Singapore. It worries that Singapore is increasingly becoming &#8220;high cost, low tech&#8221;, and that careers in engineering in Singapore is losing out to business, finance and accountancy careers. It follows on a long discussion on that site of how engineering is a dead end career, and how President&#8217;s scholars in the past two batches are not doing engineering. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wrong move</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-7324</link>
		<dc:creator>wrong move</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wrong move, Daniel. singapore doesn&#039;t value technical talent. as you will discover, many of the smartest technical singaporeans are actually living in california. those who insist on pursuing their careers in singapore are either struggling or have moved on to other kinds of work just as you will too, as you&#039;re a police scholar. :)

a possible scenario for you: you will one day make it to be a top guy in SPF and claim to have revamped many of the computer systems and successfully led the police force into a new high-tech era. and you will say it&#039;s all due to your engineering training. that&#039;s nice, but my bugbear will be that you will be just another of the thousands of technocrats who only &quot;manage&quot; and &quot;lead&quot; but have zero experience in actually building real systems. 

there are too many of such people around. even in the US, you see many business people bossing over the true technical talent. we see less of the likes of edison, jobs, gates and moore.

talented engineers should wake up and pick up some business skills. hire the MBAs and kick their rears to make money for you instead of the other way round. but i don&#039;t see this happening anytime soon. it&#039;s not in the nature of engineers to do that. we are nice people. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrong move, Daniel. singapore doesn&#8217;t value technical talent. as you will discover, many of the smartest technical singaporeans are actually living in california. those who insist on pursuing their careers in singapore are either struggling or have moved on to other kinds of work just as you will too, as you&#8217;re a police scholar. <img src='http://www.salary.sg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>a possible scenario for you: you will one day make it to be a top guy in SPF and claim to have revamped many of the computer systems and successfully led the police force into a new high-tech era. and you will say it&#8217;s all due to your engineering training. that&#8217;s nice, but my bugbear will be that you will be just another of the thousands of technocrats who only &#8220;manage&#8221; and &#8220;lead&#8221; but have zero experience in actually building real systems. </p>
<p>there are too many of such people around. even in the US, you see many business people bossing over the true technical talent. we see less of the likes of edison, jobs, gates and moore.</p>
<p>talented engineers should wake up and pick up some business skills. hire the MBAs and kick their rears to make money for you instead of the other way round. but i don&#8217;t see this happening anytime soon. it&#8217;s not in the nature of engineers to do that. we are nice people. <img src='http://www.salary.sg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-7320</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if it counts for anything, I was one of them last year and I just switched from Economics to Computer Science/Systems Engineering (though the powers that are have yet to approve the switch).

Part of the attraction was being able to actually build useful things, rather than just analyze it and shift stuff around. So maybe engineering ain&#039;t dead just yet, at least for me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if it counts for anything, I was one of them last year and I just switched from Economics to Computer Science/Systems Engineering (though the powers that are have yet to approve the switch).</p>
<p>Part of the attraction was being able to actually build useful things, rather than just analyze it and shift stuff around. So maybe engineering ain&#8217;t dead just yet, at least for me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: trader</title>
		<link>http://www.salary.sg/2009/again-presidents-scholars-not-doing-engineering-or-science/#comment-6160</link>
		<dc:creator>trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what are the &quot;goods&quot; that you produce? Perhaps some &quot;shocked&quot; students, or some published papers chucked into the academic abyss euphemistically called &quot;body of knowledge&quot;? :)

We traders are different. We admit we are no angels, but we generate lots of moolah for our firms, which then paid big bonuses to employees who go on to spend spend spend to boost the economy! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what are the &#8220;goods&#8221; that you produce? Perhaps some &#8220;shocked&#8221; students, or some published papers chucked into the academic abyss euphemistically called &#8220;body of knowledge&#8221;? <img src='http://www.salary.sg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We traders are different. We admit we are no angels, but we generate lots of moolah for our firms, which then paid big bonuses to employees who go on to spend spend spend to boost the economy! <img src='http://www.salary.sg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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